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 Post subject: Re: Mark Applegarth
PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:41 pm 
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PopTart wrote:That's partly the message from Wigan though.
They said he was being groomed for the job before he got it. People knew his name when they were looking for coaches.
We just sprung it on people without explaining why.

Doesn't change how good they are but that's why we get the media reaction we did.



PT so did we. Both MC and JM are on record as saying they see Applegarth as a potential future coach, MC over a year ago.

I’m guessing they expected Poching to be better and last longer but I’m fairly sure that Applegarth promotion to this seasons first team coaching set up was not Pochings. I’m not saying he had an issue with it but I’d suggest the club were installing they’re plan B.

You know what I thought about Pochings coaching ability, maybe I wasn’t alone.

Fans don’t see what those directly involved in the club do - I don’t think the club were ever truly convinced but that just my opinion.

It will be interesting to see if Applegarth just has the one assistant.






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vastman wrote:PT so did we. Both MC and JM are on record as saying they see Applegarth as a potential future coach, MC over a year ago.

I’m guessing they expected Poching to be better and last longer but I’m fairly sure that Applegarth promotion to this seasons first team coaching set up was not Pochings. I’m not saying he had an issue with it but I’d suggest the club were installing they’re plan B.

You know what I thought about Pochings coaching ability, maybe I wasn’t alone.

Fans don’t see what those directly involved in the club do - I don’t think the club were ever truly convinced but that just my opinion.

It will be interesting to see if Applegarth just has the one assistant.


Why would they appoint Pochjngbif they weren't convinced?

I can't remember the comment about MA but I'm certain they weren't looking to this year.
Why put the prodigal son as assistant to someone you are not convinced about.

I'm absolutely backing Mark but if he has the same win rate as Willie he'll be outstanding not just good.






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PopTart wrote:Why would they appoint Poching if they weren't convinced?

I can't remember the comment about MA but I'm certain they weren't looking to this year.
Why put the prodigal son as assistant to someone you are not convinced about.

I'm absolutely backing Mark but if he has the same win rate as Willie he'll be outstanding not just good.


Oh come on PT, people in all walks of life are often promoted with reservations for many many reasons I myself got my first management gig on probation as they were not sure I was up to it (I wasn’t that time so they were right). It would be shocking management to take on someone as unproven as Poching without reservation.

You live in the real world your just being awkward. I’m hardly being controversial, it’s how life is.

Poching won six from twelve in 2021 I think. That would be enough to convince most people he deserved a chance. However I doubt any management would consider that enough to be a certainty. That I assume is why he got a one year deal :idea:

Put it another way, do you think Poching would have got the job if CC survived till the end of the season and the job opened to more applicants, I don’t.

I’m guessing the BOD know Applegarth so well they simply don’t have reservations, who knows but them.

It’s not my fault I was right about Poching all along :wink:






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vastman wrote:Oh come on PT, people in all walks of life are often promoted with reservations for many many reasons I myself got my first management gig on probation as they were not sure I was up to it (I wasn’t that time so they were right). It would be shocking management to take on someone as unproven as Poching without reservation.

You live in the real world your just being awkward. I’m hardly being controversial, it’s how life is.

Poching won six from twelve in 2021 I think. That would be enough to convince most people he deserved a chance. However I doubt any management would consider that enough to be a certainty. That I assume is why he got a one year deal :idea:

Put it another way, do you think Poching would have got the job if CC survived till the end of the season and the job opened to more applicants, I don’t.

I’m guessing the BOD know Applegarth so well they simply don’t have reservations, who knows but them.

It’s not my fault I was right about Poching all along :wink:


But you are playing both sides.
If Poching wasn't good enough, the board should have looked harder. I'm not sure why you think there would be more applicants a few weeks later. They either want it or don't.

You are trying to justify that Mark was spotted as a talent and groomed for a job and then linking tenuous points that you dont know for sure.

I've no doubt they rate him, but there was nothing I could see that showed they had a plan to make him coach all along.
He just did really well in his previous jobs and an opportunity came up.






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What was M A position in the team i must have seen him play but can not remember .Thanks

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alegend wrote:What was M A position in the team i must have seen him play but can not remember .Thanks


Think he was a back rower

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He was a back rower but not a regular in the first team.

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He played second row for us when he started.
He moved to prop when he got older at other clubs.

He played about 20 games in first two seasons but to be fair he was behind Solomona, MacGillivray, Henderson, and Elima.






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alegend wrote:What was M A position in the team i must have seen him play but can not remember .Thanks


I thought he appeared on the scene as a prop but I see others disagree. Fair enough.
Wished I'd kept all those programmes now.






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Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:I thought he appeared on the scene as a prop but I see others disagree. Fair enough.
Wished I'd kept all those programmes now.


RL Project has him down as playing quite a bit of loose forward for us

https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/mark-applegarth/summary.html
Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo wrote:I thought he appeared on the scene as a prop but I see others disagree. Fair enough.
Wished I'd kept all those programmes now.


RL Project has him down as playing quite a bit of loose forward for us

https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/mark-applegarth/summary.html

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