So i get there is some negative comments about mash but while i dont and wont pretend know him closley i have had many a chat with him i have listend to him in training and in the dug out i have also spoken to lads who have previously trained and played under him and currently do so and all have nothing but good to say about him he whips the whip when needed but praisers when required.he gets the best out of players.its common knowledge my lad is an academy player and i would say he has had a very successful year and if you ask him why he will say its alot to do with mash so give him a chance we know he wont have a massive budget but he will go well...
Plus any body want to see hus style in action get to wigan on sunday hes a frand final to win
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I can understand the reaction but he now needs supporting and judging on his team next year and how they perform.
I know a few things to be facts.
Nobody on this planet would work harder at making a success of the role. He’s literally the hardest worker in the room.
He’s a very good salesman he may not have the big name however he is very articulate and has the ability to get people to buy into him.
Nobody knows the club better from top to bottom.
Is it a risk? Yes.
Should we give him a chance? Absolutely, his first job will be appointing his fellow coaching team which could be as critical, if not more so than his appointment.
I can think of many coaches who have a knack of surrounding themselves with the right support staff, and had very good careers despite being limited as coaches, not that I’m saying Mash is by the way.
Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.
Roverman1 wrote:I hope he does well ,the club now has to back him with some quality players.
Think that is the main concern Will quality players want to come and play for Wakefield for a untried S L coach If you had the chance to play for M Applegarth or T Smith who would you want to play for .
It was obvious that this was agreed prior to any review or the quickest appointment. I know you are hoping that the club know best but to appoint our second assistant without even seeing who may want the job smacks of the usual modus operandi of cheap. I wonder how he will be able to sell the club to any quality players or will it be just those looking for a final pay packet coupled with those returning from long injury absence. I hate to burst your bubble but we have offloaded most of this seasons squad and do you think he will boost season ticket sales. We know the club prefer those that agree with them so that may of helped his appointment. I am not an accountant but the accounts submitted for the period ending Nov 2021 showed an increase of cash in hand of over £500,000 to just over £750,000 plus the stakeholders loans reduced by £80,000. I suppose there may be a reason for this but interesting none the less.
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:It was obvious that this was agreed prior to any review or the quickest appointment. I know you are hoping that the club know best but to appoint our second assistant without even seeing who may want the job smacks of the usual modus operandi of cheap. I wonder how he will be able to sell the club to any quality players or will it be just those looking for a final pay packet coupled with those returning from long injury absence. I hate to burst your bubble but we have offloaded most of this seasons squad and do you think he will boost season ticket sales. We know the club prefer those that agree with them so that may of helped his appointment. I am not an accountant but the accounts submitted for the period ending Nov 2021 showed an increase of cash in hand of over £500,000 to just over £750,000 plus the stakeholders loans reduced by £80,000. I suppose there may be a reason for this but interesting none the less.
I'm thinking you don't actually know if they talked to anyone else?
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:It was obvious that this was agreed prior to any review or the quickest appointment. I know you are hoping that the club know best but to appoint our second assistant without even seeing who may want the job smacks of the usual modus operandi of cheap. I wonder how he will be able to sell the club to any quality players or will it be just those looking for a final pay packet coupled with those returning from long injury absence. I hate to burst your bubble but we have offloaded most of this seasons squad and do you think he will boost season ticket sales. We know the club prefer those that agree with them so that may of helped his appointment. I am not an accountant but the accounts submitted for the period ending Nov 2021 showed an increase of cash in hand of over £500,000 to just over £750,000 plus the stakeholders loans reduced by £80,000. I suppose there may be a reason for this but interesting none the less.
If it was so obvious then why didn't you point it out to those of us who did not see the obvious, also can you name the players we have offloaded, you really need to get rid of the bitterness that's eating you up, get down to a game next season and cheer yourself up
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chissitt wrote:If it was so obvious then why didn't you point it out to those of us who did not see the obvious, also can you name the players we have offloaded, you really need to get rid of the bitterness that's eating you up, get down to a game next season and cheer yourself up
A McDonalds' Happy Meal wouldn't cheer him up I'm afraid. That is obvious.
Luppylad wrote:So i get there is some negative comments about mash but while i dont and wont pretend know him closley i have had many a chat with him i have listend to him in training and in the dug out i have also spoken to lads who have previously trained and played under him and currently do so and all have nothing but good to say about him he whips the whip when needed but praisers when required.he gets the best out of players.its common knowledge my lad is an academy player and i would say he has had a very successful year and if you ask him why he will say its alot to do with mash so give him a chance we know he wont have a massive budget but he will go well...
Plus any body want to see hus style in action get to wigan on sunday hes a frand final to win
Good post Luppy....along with most others on here, I have to admit to being under-whelmed by his appointment, however, it's posts like yours (from someone who actually knows how he can perform) that partially help to alleviate some of my concerns. Obviously his ability to perform successfully will depend massively on the calibre of players being brought in and the way the retained players can adapt to playing with the new-comers, so Mash clearly has his work cut out from the get-go. So for me, we all have to now get behind him and the rest of the new coaching team (whoever they may be) and just hope that we can hit the ground running come February
chissitt wrote:If it was so obvious then why didn't you point it out to those of us who did not see the obvious, also can you name the players we have offloaded, you really need to get rid of the bitterness that's eating you up, get down to a game next season and cheer yourself up
It only became obvious with the speed he replaced WP because it didn’t give much time to do a full review don’t you think. I don’t know the full list because we are still to produce the final retained list but even you must know the first team regulars who have left. I am angry yes because they are treating supporters as fools every season since the fans persuaded MC to sack his friend Chester we have seen the funds dry up and once again they reduce it further. I look forward to the quality of player our new coach can bring in and if you think it will be his decision you are kidding yourself.
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