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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:13 am 
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Cullen should resign or be sacked simple as that!

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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:33 am 
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Mellor has come out as well and said it wasn't a penalty let alone a ban, and expressed his empathy to Martin.

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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:47 am 
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Definition of frivolous:
Unworthy of serious attention; trivial.
Inappropriately silly.
Of little weight or importance; not worth notice; slight.

I wonder how the panel of experts view our appeal in the context of the above.

I feel it more appropriately defines the panel itself, which is sad, given that the main objective must be the exact opposite - to reduce foul play, protect players from serious injury, clamp down on serial offenders and stand as a body respected by players, clubs and supporters.






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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:02 am 
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Harry is named in the 21!

... Though I'd be surprised to see him in the 17


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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:03 am 
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Fred_Pickup wrote:Definition of frivolous:
Unworthy of serious attention; trivial.
Inappropriately silly.
Of little weight or importance; not worth notice; slight.

I wonder how the panel of experts view our appeal in the context of the above.

I feel it more appropriately defines the panel itself, which is sad, given that the main objective must be the exact opposite - to reduce foul play, protect players from serious injury, clamp down on serial offenders and stand as a body respected by players, clubs and supporters.


I feel for Leeds, and more to the point Martin, nevr a ban in my eyes.

I do have to wonder, however, are Leeds as a club actually any good at appealing? Are they just getting it all wrong?

It's difficult isn't it - you either appeal and plead not guilty, which is problematic because there was contact with the head. Or you appeal against the ban, which is problematic as it's Grade A and Martin has been banned previously (setting aside the merits of said ban). Is the frivolous aspect the fact that Leeds have essentiallly pled not guilt when he makes contact with the head?

Rightly or wrongly Leeds did not play the Newman situation well and all that public (pointless and in my view incorrect) criticism of the disciplinary over that incident wasn't a particularly strategic response.

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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:05 am 
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ArthurClues wrote:What's hilarious is that Paul Cullen even heads the committee. He was the definition of "old school enforcer" as I remember him. Talk about poacher turned gamekeeper.


:lol:

What do you think he'd give himself for this bit of blindside s***housery?

https://youtu.be/Pug17-ZSDrQ?t=82
ArthurClues wrote:What's hilarious is that Paul Cullen even heads the committee. He was the definition of "old school enforcer" as I remember him. Talk about poacher turned gamekeeper.


:lol:

What do you think he'd give himself for this bit of blindside s***housery?

https://youtu.be/Pug17-ZSDrQ?t=82

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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:13 am 
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The only frivolity I can see here is Paul Cullen's appointment as panel chair, at least based on the evidence of his playing career, in addition to several incomprehensible decisions of the panel this year.

IMO an ex-referee or administrator without strong connections to any of the clubs would make a lot more sense to head this panel than an ex-player with a reputation for foul play during his playing career.

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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:57 am 
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flipper wrote::lol:

What do you think he'd give himself for this bit of blindside s***housery?

https://youtu.be/Pug17-ZSDrQ?t=82

Brilliant, certainly wasn’t hand bags at ten paces in those days.
flipper wrote::lol:

What do you think he'd give himself for this bit of blindside s***housery?

https://youtu.be/Pug17-ZSDrQ?t=82

Brilliant, certainly wasn’t hand bags at ten paces in those days.

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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:12 pm 
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Seth wrote:But the minimal and incidental touch on the end of Mellors nose on Martins arm brushing past to make the tackle around the ball is not the contact the mrp spoke about trying to eliminate from the game. There is absolutely no head injury risk or 'flexion' (to use their other favourite F word) .

I hope leeds do have a very public response to the whole situation, but I hope the other clubs are part of the that too as this can't go on and it needs a collective stance..


do you mean the minimal and incidental touch on the end of Mellors nose on Martins arm brushing past to make the tackle that broke mellors nose?

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 Post subject: Re: SL PO E | Catalan Dragons (A)
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fbstackafelt wrote:do you mean the minimal and incidental touch on the end of Mellors nose on Martins arm brushing past to make the tackle that broke mellors nose?


Where’s it been stated that Mellor broke his nose?

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