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 Post subject: Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:12 am 
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Now was going for the intercept really the thing Handley should have done here? A very high risk play. Salford didn't have an overlap which would have justified it - staying on his man would have been the decision he was coached to take.

https://twitter.com/leedsrhinos/status/ ... 0919743493
Now was going for the intercept really the thing Handley should have done here? A very high risk play. Salford didn't have an overlap which would have justified it - staying on his man would have been the decision he was coached to take.

https://twitter.com/leedsrhinos/status/ ... 0919743493






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The Ghost of '99 wrote:Now was going for the intercept really the thing Handley should have done here? A very high risk play. Salford didn't have an overlap which would have justified it - staying on his man would have been the decision he was coached to take.

https://twitter.com/leedsrhinos/status/ ... 0919743493

Yes, he scored the game breaking try
The Ghost of '99 wrote:Now was going for the intercept really the thing Handley should have done here? A very high risk play. Salford didn't have an overlap which would have justified it - staying on his man would have been the decision he was coached to take.

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Yes, he scored the game breaking try






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LeedsLurch wrote:Yes, he scored the game breaking try
You need to take that out of it though - Handley created an open space for them to run in a try for a high risk play that came off.
Most of the time those don't come off.






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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:23 am 
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The Ghost of '99 wrote:Now was going for the intercept really the thing Handley should have done here? A very high risk play. Salford didn't have an overlap which would have justified it - staying on his man would have been the decision he was coached to take.

https://twitter.com/leedsrhinos/status/ ... 0919743493


Should he have made the play that ultimately won us the game?

Seriously?

Smith is coaching them to play what they see, he saw an opportunity, took it, scored.
The Ghost of '99 wrote:Now was going for the intercept really the thing Handley should have done here? A very high risk play. Salford didn't have an overlap which would have justified it - staying on his man would have been the decision he was coached to take.

https://twitter.com/leedsrhinos/status/ ... 0919743493


Should he have made the play that ultimately won us the game?

Seriously?

Smith is coaching them to play what they see, he saw an opportunity, took it, scored.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:08 am 
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The Ghost of '99 wrote:You need to take that out of it though - Handley created an open space for them to run in a try for a high risk play that came off.
Most of the time those don't come off.

Some of your comments give me a good laugh at least!

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LeedsLurch wrote:I went to the game expecting a cracker. Both sides under delivered IMO, lots of knock ons in ideal rugby conditions and incompleted sets. We took our chances when they came and that was the difference between the 2 sides, other than that it was 40 minutes each. I agree that we wouldnt of won that game a few weeks back. As RS said in his presser, sometimes you have to find a different way to win and that is what happened yesterday.


Yeah, we had a long spell in the middle of the match where we rarely completed a set, and I reckon we only had the ball once in first 8 Minutes of the second half. Given that we do really well to get a win in the end as they looked to be coming home well until the Handley interception try. If he misses it, Salford very likely win the game.
Bentley, Smith, Mik and Zane all lost the ball in contact although I thought Bentley’s was a rip. Smith/ Bentley obstruction and kick off out on the full from Sutcliffe all have a good Salford side a big leg up to put us under pressure.
They made a number of line breaks but we’re thwarted by excellent positioning and reading of the game by Hardaker.

Our relatively passive line speed is all about trying to stop line breaks and not give away 6 again and penalties for off side. We just won yesterday but we could cop a big defeat later this year against a bigger pack.

Having let Walker, Mellor and Broadbent leave and not brought anyone in we have a thin looking squad.

We’ve had 2 tiring trips to France and now have a very short turnaround to HKR, 3 days less than them, I worry we may run out of gas a bit, particularly with the crazy 4 games in 2 weeks inc another trip to Catalan.

Overall though, great spirit being shown and it’s much better to watch.

Interesting to see other comings and going for next season.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:16 am 
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Sigh. It's not hard to hold two thoughts at the same time - great he scored the try but nope it was not what he is told to do.

The ledger of tries conceded by Ash doing exactly that sort of thing over and over again vs this one where an intercept came off is not in his favour.






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The Ghost of '99 wrote:Sigh. It's not hard to hold two thoughts at the same time - great he scored the try but nope it was not what he is told to do.

The ledger of tries conceded by Ash doing exactly that sort of thing over and over again vs this one where an intercept came off is not in his favour.


How do you know it’s not what he’s told to do, they may have spotted that play by Salford on video analysis and calculated what pass was going to be thrown.

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The Ghost of '99 wrote:Sigh. It's not hard to hold two thoughts at the same time - great he scored the try but nope it was not what he is told to do.

The ledger of tries conceded by Ash doing exactly that sort of thing over and over again vs this one where an intercept came off is not in his favour.

I'm in agreement with you and Handley found himself in that position because of his usual coming of of position defensively and got fortunate the ball landed with him.

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I'd rather our defenders focused on stopping tries rather than scoring them when they other team have the ball. Handley is a prime culprit, it came off this time, but most of the time it doesn't, he's caught in no mans land and their winger scores a walk in.






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