Post subject: Re: Is Konrad Hurrell the signing of the season?
Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:03 am
Judder Man
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 29 2007 Posts: 6767 Location: Now in Enemy Country
The Ghost of '99 wrote:Love the way people are pretending Hurrell has been transformed at Saints. When he is still the same ratio of awful and brilliant as before. And the brilliant stuff was why he was in the Super League Dream Team twice in his three years at Leeds.
Saints have him playing differently than his time at Leeds, he is more of a team player. Woolf has improved his defence and cut down his errors, on the stats its looking good at the moment for his try assists during a superleague season.
Hurrell was excellent for Leeds in the 2019 season with trys scored, he won't reach those heights with Saints but his contribution this season on and off the field is really positive, he is enyoying his rugby this season compared to his last 2 years at Leeds.
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.
Post subject: Re: Is Konrad Hurrell the signing of the season?
Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:44 am
The Ghost of '99
Player Coach
Joined: Feb 26 2006 Posts: 3092
Judder Man wrote:Saints have him playing differently than his time at Leeds, he is more of a team player. Woolf has improved his defence and cut down his errors, on the stats its looking good at the moment for his try assists during a superleague season.
Hurrell was excellent for Leeds in the 2019 season with trys scored, he won't reach those heights with Saints but his contribution this season on and off the field is really positive, he is enyoying his rugby this season compared to his last 2 years at Leeds.
Again rewriting history. Hurrell had a poor final year at Leeds which is why his contract offer from the club wasn't substantial. That poor last year was partly due to injury partly form - but Wolff hasn't made much tangible difference as far as can be seen. He's not that kind of coach and Hurrell not that kind of player.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Post subject: Re: Is Konrad Hurrell the signing of the season?
Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:46 am
The Ghost of '99
Player Coach
Joined: Feb 26 2006 Posts: 3092
Saddened! wrote:How many times did he play a full game at Leeds?
About 50 over 3 years?
Playing in a better team obviously makes it easier for him to look better than when playing in a struggling team. But someone inconsistent and error prone like Hurrell is also not a luxury a struggling team can afford.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Konrad is a different player because he is playing behind a winning pack, at Leeds they are were pretty much a beaten pack, and 3/4s get far less traffic closer to the line under those situations.
Post subject: Re: Is Konrad Hurrell the signing of the season?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:27 am
The Ghost of '99
Player Coach
Joined: Feb 26 2006 Posts: 3092
People seem to be forgetting Hurrell was in the Dream Team two out of his three years at Leeds. He's a very good, very explosive player. He hasn't suddenly become this at St Helens.
But Leeds, rightly in my view, judged that his all too obvious weaknesses, which are still glaring, didn't outweigh the upsides and couldn't justify the contract he wanted from us. I backed that when we let him go and still do. He's a luxury only a few teams can afford to have because, for all his positive impact, those mistakes and lapses in concentration can be deadly to less polished or struggling teams.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Post subject: Re: Is Konrad Hurrell the signing of the season?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:25 pm
Egg Chasing
International Star
Joined: Jan 20 2013 Posts: 4470 Location: Watching Rugby League
The Ghost of '99 wrote:People seem to be forgetting Hurrell was in the Dream Team two out of his three years at Leeds. He's a very good, very explosive player. He hasn't suddenly become this at St Helens.
But Leeds, rightly in my view, judged that his all too obvious weaknesses, which are still glaring, didn't outweigh the upsides and couldn't justify the contract he wanted from us. I backed that when we let him go and still do. He's a luxury only a few teams can afford to have because, for all his positive impact, those mistakes and lapses in concentration can be deadly to less polished or struggling teams.
Post subject: Re: Is Konrad Hurrell the signing of the season?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:36 pm
TheWarringtonWolve69
First Team Player
Joined: Aug 25 2021 Posts: 1219
What a load of rubbish lmao. He’s been at fault for no more tries than any other player is. Plus, he has bought into the St. Helens ethos of hard work, something he didn’t need to do at Leeds as they don’t have the same culture
Best signing of the season bar none and would walk into any other SL team
Post subject: Re: Is Konrad Hurrell the signing of the season?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:21 pm
Jason65
First Team Player
Joined: Aug 14 2020 Posts: 1375
TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:What a load of rubbish lmao. He’s been at fault for no more tries than any other player is. Plus, he has bought into the St. Helens ethos of hard work, something he didn’t need to do at Leeds as they don’t have the same culture
Best signing of the season bar none and would walk into any other SL team
And yet 5 mtrs from the line and a fullback deemed as someone who cannot tackle stopped him and he dropped the ball,the rest is history.
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