I doubt you will find many of the de Pfeffel party seeking the resignation of Starmer if and it is a big if found to have broken the law because they know it would be expected of every member of the government who actually set the rules to follow the honourable route and resign themselves. How would they explain to the public that they are different. When it comes to Brexit why does it always blame remainers when things go wrong but yet balk if you dare suggest the failure it as been which is obvious for all to see.
wire-quin wrote:In summary a less than impressive Labour performance. Post partygate Boris got what he knew was coming but it wasn’t too bad in the greater scheme of things. 2 years now to move the party in its intended direction and get this nonsense behind them.
You have your blue tinted glasses on again Here are the full results for you:
Interesting that Labour now have 3030 seats and the Tories just 1347. Yep, your right a crap night for Labour
wire-quin wrote:In summary a less than impressive Labour performance. Post partygate Boris got what he knew was coming but it wasn’t too bad in the greater scheme of things. 2 years now to move the party in its intended direction and get this nonsense behind them.
You have your blue tinted glasses on again Here are the full results for you:
Mild Rover wrote:Nobody with a shred of decency, honour or dignity can justify their actions by saying they’re no worse that Johnson, and sinking to his standards.
I agree. It would be a cruel irony if Starmer was to resign and Johnson remain in post, especially as the Sue Gray report, which is likely to be damning, will no doubt show just how prevalent the party culture was inside no 10 and there are very likely more fines to come.
I note that Raab does not count Scotland and Wales to be part of the U.K. when he suggested Labour’s success was down to London only. Hoe can a party or the media believe that losing nearly 500 seats is mixed when you consider when the majority of these seats were last contested it was considered then to be a disastrous night for the Conservatives.
wrencat1873 wrote:I'm ok if Starmer is fined and consequently resigns but, surely, he shouldn't go unless Johnson also resigns ?
Perhaps Starmers indiscretion/s were blinded by Angela's pins, after all they have on more than one occasion caused Boris to stutter while stood at the box
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:I note that Raab does not count Scotland and Wales to be part of the U.K. when he suggested Labour’s success was down to London only. Hoe can a party or the media believe that losing nearly 500 seats is mixed when you consider when the majority of these seats were last contested it was considered then to be a disastrous night for the Conservatives.
This "London doesn't count" thing is in its own right deeply stupid and reminds me of Republicans in the US who say similar about voters in big cities (subtext in that case: they're mostly black and brown people so who cares).
Raab of course would do well to pay attention - his 4% majority in his London commuter belt constituency means he is toast if the general election goes anything close to how people voted on Thursday.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
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