Saddened! wrote:What have I got to be bitter about? Do you think Wigan played well last night? They've got a lot of improvement in them as well as Hull and probably won't be happy about anything bar the result (Maybe Havard's development and Farrell's workrate). Hull did enough to win that game and then threw it away. Wigan will feel they got away with one there. Maybe this is the mindset shift Hull need to think about as well. You're too big a club to be happy with playing okay and drifting around mid table and the players you have are too good to be doing that as well. As for the bigger club stuff, irrelevant. Another empty stadium last night, which won't be doing them any good.
Maybe bitter was a bit strong a description but from your post you concentrated how poor Wigan were due to your intense rivalry without giving credit to Hull's performance.
We have not beaten any of the four biggest teams in SL in 17 attempts so to run Wigan close and in my opinion played well is a positive. Like Warrington we are a big club but have under achieved for years.
It was a poor crowd but a lot of Thursday night TV games are. We average 11k plus which in RL terms is creditable but in a 25k stadium it never looks full. Saints are a great club and have been far and away the best team in the league for the last few years but in my view Wigan historically are the biggest club in the game.
Nothing personal against you or your club just a bit miffed that you didn't give Hull any credit. I enjoy watching Saints play.
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Freddie Miller. wrote:The NRL 2 referee system changed in 2020 when the season recommenced in May after a Covid19 break.Matches thereafter were officiated by a single referee and this system continues on today.
My bad, shows how much I watch it, I don't have subscription TV so am limited to a few highlights. Still think the 10m is more evident in the NRL
bonaire wrote:Our right edge has been strong and although Lovodua missed the tackle Connor should have stopped Field One of my points was surrounding Connor Wynne and why he was on the bench following his MOM last week yet an underperforming Griffin offers nothing other than making a few metres out of backfield.He is slow, offers very little in attack and time and time again is found wanting in defence which fans on seem to ignore. We have a rookie in Mitch playing right centre who has good defence and last night made a break then a one handed pass to Lovodua who then put Houghton in for a try.Could Griffin do that?no I agree we are heading in the right direction and Hodgsons bench selection at times is poor but even though you are a senior player if you are underperforming you should be replaced if we have a player available
We'll just agree to disagree about Griffin.
He's not Jamie Lyon, but I think you're doing his skill set a disservice.
Mitch could've jammed in on Field to stop the break too.
bonaire wrote:Our right edge has been strong and although Lovodua missed the tackle Connor should have stopped Field One of my points was surrounding Connor Wynne and why he was on the bench following his MOM last week yet an underperforming Griffin offers nothing other than making a few metres out of backfield.He is slow, offers very little in attack and time and time again is found wanting in defence which fans on seem to ignore. We have a rookie in Mitch playing right centre who has good defence and last night made a break then a one handed pass to Lovodua who then put Houghton in for a try.Could Griffin do that?no I agree we are heading in the right direction and Hodgsons bench selection at times is poor but even though you are a senior player if you are underperforming you should be replaced if we have a player available
We'll just agree to disagree about Griffin.
He's not Jamie Lyon, but I think you're doing his skill set a disservice.
Mitch could've jammed in on Field to stop the break too.
Mrs Barista wrote:I sort of agree with Saddened in that we need to be winning games like last night to make the play offs. We saw in 2016 how winning tight games drove momentum. Personally not sure whether we will make the top 6 - Wigan, Saints and Catalans will likely be top 3 and Warrington might take a while to adjust to Powell but reckon they'll come good. Quite a few good teams then vying for 5&6. Hopefully we can be in the mix.
Saddened! wrote:Hull should be fuming after that. 80% of the performance is there and there is the potential for this Hull team to genuinely challenge this year. But somehow you just don't manage it.
You were the better team against Wigan I thought. They are a bang average side besides Field's pace, they have absolutely nothing in attack and beside Havard and Farrell's industry they don't have a pack either. Yet little moments in the game cost you and most of them are around fitness and composure. Lovodua's 'attempt' on Field for his second try was absolutely pathetic. Field did nothing to earn the break, he stepped well before the line, Lovodua read it and Field effectively gave up, he was bracing for the tackle. Lovodua had his arm around his waist and rather than slap him onto his back, he just let him walk through him. That, combined with Connor's two idiotic passes in the final ten minutes cost you. Even then you were still level. If Hull review the tapes today and see the metres Wigan made in the last two drives up the field for the drop goal attempts they should be ashamed. Wigan made metres far, far too easily. Farrell's run got Wigan about 30 metres up the field again without even doing anything. The Hull defenders were either too tired or too lazy to stop him and happily walked back with him. Just no intensity at all in the last 10 minutes.
Points difference in Super League is a really good indicator of the strength of teams. Hull's is almost identical to Wigan's, yet they are top and you are 5th. They win the scrappy games to get into an artificial position in the table, Hull do the opposite. With Warrington, Hull KR and Leeds bound to improve at some point, you could miss out on the playoffs if you keep doing this.
Oooo you can't criticise Connor to our fans
He's the best full back in super league according to dave and Chris
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