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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:27 am 
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barton baird wrote:I wouldn`t call Hull bang average. Inconsistant is more like it.Never know which team is going to turn up.


Hull aren’t average at all, they are going through a bit of an injury crisis but finding a way to navigate through it, its no surprise they are inconsistent with constantly swapping the side around.

They came with a game plan that suited the squad and executed it, with Leeds being so poor that’s all they needed to do it’s the sign of a well coached side, i know hodgson hasn’t had a great start last year but he will be s decent coach IMO

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barton baird wrote:I wouldn`t call Hull bang average. Inconsistant is more like it.Never know which team is going to turn up.


Hull aren’t average at all, they are going through a bit of an injury crisis but finding a way to navigate through it, its no surprise they are inconsistent with constantly swapping the side around.

They came with a game plan that suited the squad and executed it, with Leeds being so poor that’s all they needed to do it’s the sign of a well coached side, i know hodgson hasn’t had a great start last year but he will be s decent coach IMO

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 Post subject: Re: RD 5 | Hull FC (H)
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barton baird wrote:I wouldn`t call Hull bang average. Inconsistant is more like it.Never know which team is going to turn up.


Last night Hull had a depleted team that were absolutely there for the taking.

I'm taking nothing away from Hull performance - you can only play what you are on the field against.

But for Leeds to be at home, 0-31 down with 10 minutes to go is unforgivable.

We have Liam Sutcliffe chatting and joking with Jake Connor with 10 mins to go.

When Joe Cater was injured, we have all our players stood around hands on hips for 5 minutes. They should be in a huddle, geeing each other up.

There are a lot of well paid players at Leeds and the fans show up week in week out at least looking for some passion and entertainment. So far this season - and last - that has been totally missing. If they don't want to play for Leeds, that is fine - do a Segayaro/Merrin and play elsewhere.

I can only hope Leeming/Bentley/Newman returning helps - but all sides have injury crises and its how you deal with it.

At the moment we (Leeds) look like a Championship side. Its simply been not good enough now for too long.

Don't get me wrong, Leeds (unlike the sudden rush of Saints fans) don't have a god given right to win every week. They need to WORK for it.

But something needs to change and the only thing Leeds haven't changed is the coaching setup.

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 Post subject: Re: RD 5 | Hull FC (H)
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krisleeds wrote:Last night Hull had a depleted team that were absolutely there for the taking.

I'm taking nothing away from Hull performance - you can only play what you are on the field against.

But for Leeds to be at home, 0-31 down with 10 minutes to go is unforgivable.

We have Liam Sutcliffe chatting and joking with Jake Connor with 10 mins to go.

When Joe Cater was injured, we have all our players stood around hands on hips for 5 minutes. They should be in a huddle, geeing each other up.

There are a lot of well paid players at Leeds and the fans show up week in week out at least looking for some passion and entertainment. So far this season - and last - that has been totally missing. If they don't want to play for Leeds, that is fine - do a Segayaro/Merrin and play elsewhere.

I can only hope Leeming/Bentley/Newman returning helps - but all sides have injury crises and its how you deal with it.

At the moment we (Leeds) look like a Championship side. Its simply been not good enough now for too long.

Don't get me wrong, Leeds (unlike the sudden rush of Saints fans) don't have a god given right to win every week. They need to WORK for it.

But something needs to change and the only thing Leeds haven't changed is the coaching setup.


Good post, we certainly do not have a right to win ever week, ive got absolutely zero issue with us losing games, none at all as long as the team look like the are giving their all or at least trying.

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 Post subject: Re: RD 5 | Hull FC (H)
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Listening to the Agar interview and Luke Gales comments last night.
Gale alluding to the fact Leeds have got the players but something isn`t right.
Also saying he and Agar didn`t see eye to eye.
Is it coincidence that what many of us thought would be a pretty good half back partnership slowly becoming one of the worse in the League?
Could it be the coach is asking them to do things that they do not agree with just like Luke Gale didn`t?
I personally rated Gale and thought him and Sezer would have worked but clearly Agar had other ideas.
Full credit to Hull last night their forwards completely mullered ours.
And considering they didn`t have their first choice half backs playing makes it all the more depressing.

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chapylad wrote:Listening to the Agar interview and Luke Gales comments last night.
Gale alluding to the fact Leeds have got the players but something isn`t right.
Also saying he and Agar didn`t see eye to eye.
Is it coincidence that what many of us thought would be a pretty good half back partnership slowly becoming one of the worse in the League?
Could it be the coach is asking them to do things that they do not agree with just like Luke Gale didn`t?
I personally rated Gale and thought him and Sezer would have worked but clearly Agar had other ideas.
Full credit to Hull last night their forwards completely mullered ours.
And considering they didn`t have their first choice half backs playing makes it all the more depressing.


Agar churns out the same post match interview wherever he coaches.

When he was at Hull, we trained brilliantly each week for 3-4 years and won nothing!

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 Post subject: Re: RD 5 | Hull FC (H)
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Agar's masked slipped a bit during the press conference on the club site. Started off the usual guff but when a coach alludes to not flogging a dead horse its pretty clear he doesn't know what to do. Maybe he's different alone with the team but he just doesn't radiate anything when we lose - just a sort of world weariness.

Our squad is short in some key areas, but its a lot better than 2019 when Furner got sacked. We won't need Lui-style signings to turn things around for this season, but its looking very unlikely that things will really change with Agar as coach.

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chapylad wrote:Listening to the Agar interview and Luke Gales comments last night.
Gale alluding to the fact Leeds have got the players but something isn`t right.
Also saying he and Agar didn`t see eye to eye.
Is it coincidence that what many of us thought would be a pretty good half back partnership slowly becoming one of the worse in the League?
Could it be the coach is asking them to do things that they do not agree with just like Luke Gale didn`t?
I personally rated Gale and thought him and Sezer would have worked but clearly Agar had other ideas.
Full credit to Hull last night their forwards completely mullered ours.
And considering they didn`t have their first choice half backs playing makes it all the more depressing.


Agar churns out the same post match interview wherever he coaches.

When he was at Hull, we trained brilliantly each week for 3-4 years and won nothing!


Yep as a long suffering Hull fan watching the game last night and seeing how Leeds looked completely rudderless was reminiscent of the days of games played under Agars tenure (of which we had many). Listening to him he still sounds like the same broken record and I'm amazed he still in the job at Leeds. I really had the game down as a hammering for us with so many out injured and players playing out of position then loosing another 3-4 during the game I was waiting for us to run out of gas and Leeds to come back but there was nothing and no leadership on the field from Leeds.
As for signing Sezer has he actually arrived?






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 Post subject: Re: RD 5 | Hull FC (H)
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Rugby Raider wrote:Agar churns out the same post match interview wherever he coaches.

When he was at Hull, we trained brilliantly each week for 3-4 years and won nothing!

And their lies the problem.
He`s done nothing at each club he`s managed and I would say probably made them worse.
He`s been lucky here as we have had injuries like last season so fans were prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.
The season before that we were going through a transition again getting the benefit of the doubt.
This season on paper we have a top four squad but had a few suspensions/injuries pretty much like most teams so once again given some leeway it seems.
Somebody somewhere should smell the coffee and get rid.
The worry is there`s nobody that springs to mind least of all Long, JJB and Walker.

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Chris71 wrote:.
As for signing Sezer has he actually arrived?


When does Gale arrive at Hull? Im sure he signed for you in the off season

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