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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:34 am 
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Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:I mean I get what you're saying, would love to see the shoulder charge come back and more fights but that was a straight red every day of the week.

I don't think I've ever seen a player attack the kicker with his studs up like that. What on earth was he thinking? You could see him panicking trying to get Lomax back to his feet.

I don't think there was anything malicious in it and was going for the ball but it was a mistake to attempt it.

Class player though and hope he has a good season for Hull.


Don't mind a bit of biff and the shoulder to shouder charge was always part of the game. The problem over the decade or more is that the impacts are more substantial bigger players muscle on muscle at higher speeds with 2 or 3 men tacklers.
Pre Superleague it was on slower muddy pitches and forwards carried more blubber so the impacts were less severe and more sustainable.

Don't know what Gale was thinking of was he having an Eric Cantona moment.






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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:20 pm 
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Judder Man wrote:Don't mind a bit of biff and the shoulder to shouder charge was always part of the game. The problem over the decade or more is that the impacts are more substantial bigger players muscle on muscle at higher speeds with 2 or 3 men tacklers.
Pre Superleague it was on slower muddy pitches and forwards carried more blubber so the impacts were less severe and more sustainable.

Don't know what Gale was thinking of was he having an Eric Cantona moment.


Cantona's was a deliberate attack on someone.

Gale's was in no way malicious or deliberate. Just stupid and clumsy.






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 Post subject: Re: The game getting ridiculously soft
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:42 pm 
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TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:Cantona's was a deliberate attack on someone.

Gale's was in no way malicious or deliberate. Just stupid and clumsy.


I think Kendall asked the video ref if he thought it was deliberate to conclude that is a red card, otherwise it would have been a yellow.

The disciplinary will have more time to judge it and Gale will hope it will be deemed as a reckless challenge without intent to injure. What will be looked at is how Gale man handled and hauled a potential injured player onto his feet to try and avoid the ref looking back at the incident, Gale will be asked to explain that.

As you know Lomax is one of the toughest players around and doesn't go down too easy, can't see Lomax faking it maybe its something Gale would do.






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Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:Which competition rulesets say you can't? Cos you can in unified rules, which the ufc uses, see Jon Jones doing oblique kicks to people's knees for the first half of the last decade.



Not on the knee you cant. You have to land it above the knee.






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Thetalentboy wrote:Players getting sent off and wouldn't even have been a penalty 20 years ago

Gale today prime example a little touch on the leg

20 years ago you had to nearly take a players head off for a red

Seeing penalties for players getting dumped normal to the ground ( lineham tonight good example )

If its not careful the game will turn into touch rugby


I agree with your point in general about the game getting softer, but not with your example about Gale. I was rooting for Hull in that game, but the Gale incident was a definite red card. You simply can't do that, and never could.

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Thetalentboy wrote:Players getting sent off and wouldn't even have been a penalty 20 years ago

Gale today prime example a little touch on the leg

20 years ago you had to nearly take a players head off for a red

Seeing penalties for players getting dumped normal to the ground ( lineham tonight good example )

If its not careful the game will turn into touch rugby


Gale may have stayed on if there hadn't been a VR but, there is no doubt it was the correct decision.
How is Lomax btw, he didnt play for much of the game ?

Are you suggesting that he played for the ball rather than the man :shock:

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TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:Cantona's was a deliberate attack on someone.

Gale's was in no way malicious or deliberate. Just stupid and clumsy.


Yet I find cantona’s much more justifiable and acceptable






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Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:Not on the knee you cant. You have to land it above the knee.

Marc Goddard, ufc ref and referee coach seems to think otherwise

https://twitter.com/marcgoddard_uk/stat ... I2qjA&s=19
Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:Not on the knee you cant. You have to land it above the knee.

Marc Goddard, ufc ref and referee coach seems to think otherwise

https://twitter.com/marcgoddard_uk/stat ... I2qjA&s=19

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Looks like Mr Gale could be missing a few games and that the disciplinary doesn't totally agree with the op.

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Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:Not on the knee you cant. You have to land it above the knee.


No you dont.

Currently you are allowed to attack the knee flush, with the intent of pushing it backwards. Jones and Anderson Silva utilise this move all the time

There are calls for it be banned but its not yet






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