Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:08 pm
wrencat1873
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:We can now add that his denial of any involvement in the repatriation of animals from Afghanistan turns out to be another lie.
"complete nonsense" was his reply when asked.
The fun part is that pretty much all of the cabinet are publicly backing him. What does this do to the credibility of the next PM, whose judgement will already be flawed.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:18 pm
Scarlet Pimpernell
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The latest defence is that it is Zac Goldsmith (hinting he made it up) who has questions to answer. I wonder how many people realise that we are in this state because his fallback position is to lie even after evidence to the contrary is supplied. I wonder how many of the cabinet will be out today to defend him.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:32 pm
wrencat1873
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:The latest defence is that it is Zac Goldsmith (hinting he made it up) who has questions to answer. I wonder how many people realise that we are in this state because his fallback position is to lie even after evidence to the contrary is supplied. I wonder how many of the cabinet will be out today to defend him.
Haven't seen much of Gove on the square box lately, perhaps he finally believe there is a chance for him to have a set of keys to no 10. Mind you, they let all sorts in on a Friday evening : Some even turn up with a suitcase, as though they maybe spending the night
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:41 pm
wire-quin
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wrencat1873 wrote:Haven't seen much of Gove on the square box lately, perhaps he finally believe there is a chance for him to have a set of keys to no 10. Mind you, they let all sorts in on a Friday evening : Some even turn up with a suitcase, as though they maybe spending the night
Wouldn't be a bad replacement.
Starmer for a lawyer seemed to be acting strangely today in PMQs, pre-empting the outcome of both the internal and police investigations. I'm unsure why Labour would want Boris out. He's got to be a liability, just leave him there and roll out the catalogue of shortcomings and faults at the next election.
Sir Kier really is dull. If there was a colourful opposition leader, parliament would be fantastic to watch currently. Sadly Starmer is a wet drip, devoid of any character, off the cuff one-liners, just nothing.....Everything is pre scripted and delivered to the word.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:44 pm
The Ghost of '99
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Political leaders aren't supposed to be entertaining, that's exactly the reason we're in the state we're in. Give me someone serious and sincere like Starmer any day.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:06 pm
Mild Rover
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wire-quin wrote:Wouldn't be a bad replacement.
Starmer for a lawyer seemed to be acting strangely today in PMQs, pre-empting the outcome of both the internal and police investigations. I'm unsure why Labour would want Boris out. He's got to be a liability, just leave him there and roll out the catalogue of shortcomings and faults at the next election.
Sir Kier really is dull. If there was a colourful opposition leader, parliament would be fantastic to watch currently. Sadly Starmer is a wet drip, devoid of any character, off the cuff one-liners, just nothing.....Everything is pre scripted and delivered to the word.
It’s not really pre-empting, is it? The facts are well established. Crucially that there were a number of social gatherings that broke the rules and the Prime Minister attended some of them and misled Parliament. I think even Johnson would now have to admit that if forced to answer a question and given a sufficiently powerful truth serum. To be fair he might play the moron or amnesiac card to claim he didn’t knowingly mislead Parliament, if the dose weren’t sufficiently massive.
Further confirmation from Ms Gray and the Met isn’t really needed to pass the threshold at which a person with any sense of integrity would have resigned. Although having no integrity is key to his success in his head, rather than making anything he’s achieved worthless in mine. He thinks the rules are beneath him, whereas to me they just seem to be beyond him. The man is a fraud on every level. I saw this on twitter earlier - a clown who enters a palace doesn’t become a king, the palace becomes a circus. Turkish proverb, it claimed.
That you could look at that guy and then look at Starmer and think Starmer strange, is strange to me. Possibly I seem strange to you in turn, but you’ll have to wait until the Gray report is published to be sure - nothing can be certain until then, eh?
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:52 pm
wotsupcas
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wrencat1873 wrote:"complete nonsense" was his reply when asked.
The fun part is that pretty much all of the cabinet are publicly backing him. What does this do to the credibility of the next PM, whose judgement will already be flawed.
Just for accuracy, the question he was asked was had he intervened to put animals lives before those of Afghans.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:12 pm
Scarlet Pimpernell
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wotsupcas wrote:Just for accuracy, the question he was asked was had he intervened to put animals lives before those of Afghans.
Oh well that’s alright then because I guess they were just lucky to get to the airport unaided by the embassy and armed forces, have their plane authorised to land and leave whilst many Afghans eligible for repatriation were left behind because they ran out of time.
Post subject: Re: BorisGate - A Christmas Cover Up
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:17 pm
The Ghost of '99
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:Oh well that’s alright then because I guess they were just lucky to get to the airport unaided by the embassy and armed forces, have their plane authorised to land and leave whilst many Afghans eligible for repatriation were left behind because they ran out of time.
Some people will fall for anything, and regurgitate any line. It's embarrassing
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
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