I don't vote Conservative or Labour so don't view any of these conversations from any sort of tribal prism. It really is a stretch to cling to the mindset that "They are all as bad as each other" so criticism needs to be dished out to all in equal measure. There's one side of the political divide that's really letting itself and the country down. The other side is a little bit feeble and insipid but there's no comparison.

I agree

The Lib Dem’s are proof why it’s better to keep your independence and definitely stay clear of the Conservatives.

Weren't they formed by 4 over ambitious labour politicians who thought they could do better?

They trace back to the 1850s.

Roy Jenkins isn't that old surely.

We can only do our best but you'll need to want to cure your ignorance yourself as well.

The same Lib Dem’s that formed a government with the conservatives purely to try and stay relevant?

Maybe your best just ain't good enough.

I could always see why the Lib Dems would want to take a role in a governing coalition, but they accepted an unbelievably bad deal. Essentially handing over their support for nothing meaningful, taking responsibility without getting any power.

I remember seeing Danny Alexander challenged on how little they’d got and him talking about how many more MPs the Conservatives had than the Lib Dems. True enough, but you’d think that the party of proportional representation might have tried arguing their position based on share of the vote. It remains my gold standard for bad political decision making. Still, Clegg was able to use being Deputy Prime Minister (hah!) to convince Zuckerberg to give him an undoubtedly well-paid job and I assume he gets to spend a lot of time in the States where people don’t know the damage his decision did to his party. So leading that party worked out better for him personally than for Tim Farron or Jo Swinson, for example.