Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:50 pm
orangeman
First Team Player
Joined: Mar 21 2021 Posts: 1705
jools wrote:There seems to be a fixation in RL with attendances. In reality personal attendances have been falling across the sport as a whole. For some clubs im sure they have found alternative ways to plug the financial gap in terms of sponsorship with the lure of sky exposure, lower running costs and corporate payments.
1,000 fans per home game @£25.00 a ticket and buying 2 beers and a pie for say another £8.00 is £360,000 a year. Wigan lost 6,000 fans over th last few years....that's the same number as the SKY money. Which sponsor has plugged that gap?
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:23 pm
Dropkick Murphy
Player Coach
Joined: Aug 18 2009 Posts: 2900 Location: Heald Green, Cheshire
It costs me less than £25 to get into Warrington, and I spend £0 once inside the ground. I hope that isn't the reason why we never win the Grand Final.
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:50 pm
orangeman
First Team Player
Joined: Mar 21 2021 Posts: 1705
Dropkick Murphy wrote:It costs me less than £25 to get into Warrington, and I spend £0 once inside the ground. I hope that isn't the reason why we never win the Grand Final.
I've always wondered why, Like our beloved NZ Warriors, it's always "your year' an now we know
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:12 pm
Ste100Centurions
International Star
Joined: Jun 16 2013 Posts: 2794
REVENUE wrote:Salford negotiated a deal prior to heir tenancy and are blatantly unable to afford it based on current attendances. As in any rental in the real world if payment isn't received the tenant is removed. Smaller premises will cope with the attendances currently seen but if franchises are ever bought back then Salford, as a club, would not be offered a Super League spot.
In which case, would Wakey, Cas & Hudds be offered a spot ?
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:15 am
jools
Player Coach
Joined: Jun 09 2011 Posts: 10464
orangeman wrote:1,000 fans per home game @£25.00 a ticket and buying 2 beers and a pie for say another £8.00 is £360,000 a year. Wigan lost 6,000 fans over th last few years....that's the same number as the SKY money. Which sponsor has plugged that gap?
in reality away fans dont number anything like that many and most home fans pay nothing like £25 a game, not to mention concessions. Many clubs ( eg wigan in your example) make zero from sales at the stadium. Your maths is flawed.
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:19 am
jools
Player Coach
Joined: Jun 09 2011 Posts: 10464
Ste100Centurions wrote:In which case, would Wakey, Cas & Hudds be offered a spot ?
wakey and cas still havent fulfilled the franchise requirements from last time around. I'm not sure how Salfords rental works but Hudds and Wigan pay a rental based on the numbers attending. the smaller the attendance the smaller the rent. so if attendances drop so does the outlay.
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:54 am
Donnyman
Club Captain
Joined: Nov 16 2019 Posts: 2534
jools wrote: wakey and cas still havent fulfilled the franchise requirements from last time around.
I think that requirement died with licensing and is clearly no longer a pre-requisite of Superleague membership.
I've been in Belle Vue when it sold out for the Cas play off game, and it was a fantastic experience. Equally I've been at Huddersfield in their modern stadium before some very low SL crowds that wasn't that great.
Grounds need to be safe and that includes not over filling them, and that's about it for me unless I wan't to goad any Wakey or Cas fans on here which I don't. I'm not suggesting you do either BTW, but it happens all too often......
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:39 am
jools
Player Coach
Joined: Jun 09 2011 Posts: 10464
Donnyman wrote:I think that requirement died with licensing and is clearly no longer a pre-requisite of Superleague membership.
I've been in Belle Vue when it sold out for the Cas play off game, and it was a fantastic experience. Equally I've been at Huddersfield in their modern stadium before some very low SL crowds that wasn't that great.
Grounds need to be safe and that includes not over filling them, and that's about it for me unless I wan't to goad any Wakey or Cas fans on here which I don't. I'm not suggesting you do either BTW, but it happens all too often......
my comment was in response to whether salford would fulfil franchise requirements now - in that some clubs still havent fulfilled requirements made on them a decade ago - so salford, who did what was asked of them likely wouldnt be bottom of the list!
Post subject: Re: Salford Reds Being forced out of their home?
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:39 pm
snowie
International Chairman
Donnyman wrote:I think that requirement died with licensing and is clearly no longer a pre-requisite of Superleague membership.
I've been in Belle Vue when it sold out for the Cas play off game, and it was a fantastic experience. Equally I've been at Huddersfield in their modern stadium before some very low SL crowds that wasn't that great.
Grounds need to be safe and that includes not over filling them, and that's about it for me unless I wan't to goad any Wakey or Cas fans on here which I don't. I'm not suggesting you do either BTW, but it happens all too often......
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