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 Post subject: Re: What can we do to stop the 10 + 10
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:44 pm 
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Willzay wrote:Looking forward to seeing Saints vs Hull on TV once a month. That’ll fix things.


9 home and away against your own division and 5 home and away against the other 10.....never mind Saints v Hull, Saints v Batley will be impressive 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:44 am 
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orangeman wrote:If it were happening now, then these are your 2 divisions.

Catalan
St Helens
Warrington
Wigan
Leeds
HKR
Castleford
Hull FC
Huddersfield
Wakefield

Salford
Leigh
Toulouse
Featherstone
Batley,
Halifax
Bradford
Whitehaven
London
Widnes

If it is happening at the end of 2022, then it'll make for a interesting battle at the foot of the SL table with essentially the bottom 2 going down, whilst the real battle will be for mid table in the championship. I can't see London making the grade, whilst Newcastle have set their stall out by going full time....if they get their TV deal sorted, Monday nights could be better than SKY with Wigan v Saints IV :CRAZY:

The other thing to consider is how promotion and relegation will work between the 2nd tier and those community clubs cast adrift.....the likes of Sheffield, London Skolars.....will there be a pathway for these clubs or is the drawbridge being pulled up? Clubs like Barrow have been fantastic this year....it would be criminal to take away their chance to continue to grow.


If it goes to 10x10, it will be 3 down and 1 up !

Absolutely no talk of abolishing Promotion.






[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy.


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Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!!
Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]

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 Post subject: Re: What can we do to stop the 10 + 10
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:59 am 
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Snowy wrote:If it goes to 10x10, it will be 3 down and 1 up ! Absolutely no talk of abolishing Promotion.


There can't be any such talk whilst the season is playing out can there?

Once it's all done then the difficult decisions have to be made like who is the third French club to enter the structure. :roll:

Back to the real world and 3 down means at this point the resurgent Wakefield Trinity, currently investing what they can smartening up their ground will have to go back to the Championship.

Of course their Chairman will take one for the sake of the game, unless Wrenners thinks otherwise.....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:17 am 
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For preference I'd see a 14 team SL plus an agreement to punch anyone in the face who bleats "We don't have the number of players". I think there's some mileage in enacting meaningful change with the threat of violence.






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 Post subject: Re: What can we do to stop the 10 + 10
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:20 pm 
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puroresu_boy wrote:If it happens it won't last long. Its a terrible idea and it won't take long for another format to be proposed.


Exactly this.

So desperate are we for the proverbial silver bullet, that we keep making ever more desperate changes.
To think that pre SL we had a 16 club top flight which looks like becoming a 10 club top flight (and may include 2 French clubs).

The fans have on numerous occasions been stuffed and the delusional thinking that believes cutting SL further will suddenly have fans flocking back is beyond me.

IF 2 clubs are cast adrift, their support will inevitably drop and whilst the SL average attendance MAY edge upwards, the total numbers watching RL will fall - it's not rocket science

From 16 to 14 to 12 and now to 10 is just ridiculous.

Eventually, if pro RL survives, there will be Leeds, Wigan Wire and Saints left playing amongst themselves and they will sitll be wanting a greater slice of the TV monies. Maybe they could dig up Ted Rogers and have 3,2,1. :CRAZY:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:53 pm 
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The silver bullet (or stake though the heart) was the Salary cap.

Since that was introduced the game in this country has been on a terminal decline.






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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:33 pm 
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TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:The silver bullet (or stake though the heart) was the Salary cap.

Since that was introduced the game in this country has been on a terminal decline.

Disagree.....not all SL clubs are at cap and simply letting a Dr Marwan or that bloke argyle buy trophies would have killed the game.
Lenagan has lost 6,000 fans.... that's £120,000 a game...close to £1,500,000 a year in income and it shows with their current recruitment.
I'd remove the cap.on overseas players and maybe add 2 mill to the cap, but you'll need to find a few more marwans and argyles to fund it...

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 Post subject: Re: What can we do to stop the 10 + 10
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:45 pm 
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TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:The silver bullet (or stake though the heart) was the Salary cap.

Since that was introduced the game in this country has been on a terminal decline.

I agree…..we’d walk the league without the cap wouldn’t we.

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 Post subject: Re: What can we do to stop the 10 + 10
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:49 pm 
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Pumpetypump wrote:For preference I'd see a 14 team SL plus an agreement to punch anyone in the face who bleats "We don't have the number of players".

Please......when do i sign up and can I pay someone to punch parky/donny......

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:30 pm 
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wrencat1873 wrote:Exactly this.

So desperate are we for the proverbial silver bullet, that we keep making ever more desperate changes.
To think that pre SL we had a 16 club top flight which looks like becoming a 10 club top flight (and may include 2 French clubs).

The fans have on numerous occasions been stuffed and the delusional thinking that believes cutting SL further will suddenly have fans flocking back is beyond me.

IF 2 clubs are cast adrift, their support will inevitably drop and whilst the SL average attendance MAY edge upwards, the total numbers watching RL will fall - it's not rocket science

From 16 to 14 to 12 and now to 10 is just ridiculous.

Eventually, if pro RL survives, there will be Leeds, Wigan Wire and Saints left playing amongst themselves and they will sitll be wanting a greater slice of the TV monies. Maybe they could dig up Ted Rogers and have 3,2,1. :CRAZY:


I'd rather have Dusty Bin running the game at the moment !!!

Yes, 10 clubs is not enough in my opinion, and it seems a desperate plight to expand to 20 clubs by default. It would have been far Easier just to have 14 clubs, 26 fixtures, 1 up and 1 down with the 2 promoted clubs growing due to the increased revenue generated by Sky monies and gate receipts.

Id even bin Magic to be honest as this skews relegation and even the premiers and top 6 to be honest, or maybe replace it for a 7's or nines comp.

Championship, 14 team comp too, 1 up. Give the model 3 years and see how it goes. SL needs fresh blood. Fev and Toulouse could give it a good go, and Leigh could consolidate more.

In all, a good post by Wrencat !






[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]TBF he's a good lad Snowy.


A wind up merchant but a good lad.


:lol:[/quote]

[quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]That sig snowy is Ssooooooooooo old !!![/quote]

OOpps - nowt changes !!

[b]Widnes 8 Leigh 10 LOL!!!
Leigh 23 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Leigh 30 Widnes 16 LOL!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 38 Oh Dear !!
Leigh 54 Widnes 16 FFS!!!
Leigh 50 Widnes 18 We gave them 3 tries !!!
Widnes 18 Leigh 24 Still no points in the 2nd half!!
Good luck Widnes. See you in 2015 !![/b]

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