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 Post subject: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:13 pm 
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Toulouse's August home games against Batley and Halifax have been cancelled.

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:53 pm 
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As I posted on the Toulouse thread, if Halifax had their players vaccinated at the earliest time for their age, they wouldn't be able to do that + the 2 week extra time before their game. Batley on the other hand could have done by their game. The Statement from RFL gives little indication they have bothered to investigate whether players will have been doubled jabbed or not. If Batley & York have not sorted this, I would suggest that is as good as saying we're not going so should face the penalty as Broncos. Sure they will find a way not to send York in September though.

Don't expect the club to kick up a stink though, which they should.

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:18 pm 
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Catalans refuse to travel when they only had 4 cases.....the limit is 7. The RFL say it's all good.....we couldn't be any more of a tin pot sport if we tried!
I doubt the rfl would have a leg to stand on if we threatened legal action, but doddery Dave and his zoo won't bother....too busy dreaming of plough lane

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:23 am 
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Interesting comment, if Halifax had there players vaccinated at earliest opportunity.
Raises an issue in sport general, an employer currently cannot legally force anyone to be vaccinated. Football are seeing it where players are choosing not to be vaccinated. RL players cannot be forced to take the vax, why they would choose not to is beyond me, but does pose a problem for the game

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:25 am 
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As for catalan, that then becomes a French issue, players although not positive have been in contact with someone that is positive, legally they cannot travel

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:29 am 
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northernbloke wrote:Interesting comment, if Halifax had there players vaccinated at earliest opportunity.
Raises an issue in sport general, an employer currently cannot legally force anyone to be vaccinated. Football are seeing it where players are choosing not to be vaccinated. RL players cannot be forced to take the vax, why they would choose not to is beyond me, but does pose a problem for the game


It is not really a problem, teams can play each other whether vaccinated or not. It only becomes a problem where you have differing national rules ie France. Everyone 20 & above was offered a jab from 1st or 2nd week in June depending on their age. If players choose not not vaccinate & therefore unable in this case to meet both French & English regulations, that club should be held responsible for the game not going ahead. As I said previously, Halifax's game came few days too soon so their game should have been cancelled. For Batley that is not the case. If Batley were affected by having a ton of non vaccinated players so unable to meet the rules for travel, the club must be held responsible. That would mean forfeiting the game 24-0 & 2 points deducted. The RFL have just waived it away.

Throuought this pandemic SL/RFL have shown themselves to be as transparent as wood. There appears to have been no investigation into why SL games have been called off & or breaches of covid protocols, there appears to have been no investigation of Championship clubs regarding the effect of quarantining on additional employment & now no investigation as to why Batley & i suspect York are not required to uphold the integrity of the competition & go to France. Pathetic really.

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:50 am 
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Do rugby league clubs have the legal right to enforce vaccination on their employees? Probably not.

If players choose not to be vaccinated you don't need too many missing before the rule about everyone playing must be competent to play at that level kicks in if a club started drafting in academy lads, amateurs etc to fill places.

I'm double jabbed and agree with the sentiment but am not sure the clubs can do much if a large chunk of their players simply refuse to be vaccinated. As such, I'm not sure the club can be held responsible.

Subject obviously to the clubs making reasonable efforts and not telling players to delay jabs to avoid a French trip. Anyone found doing that should have the whole library thrown at them.

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:24 pm 
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So are you saying Halfdan that clubs have no responsibility for fulfilling fixtures if players "don't fancy it"? Anarchy down that road. If Batley or York say they cannot go because they have unvaccinated players who had that opportunity, surely they are failing to play the match. I see no difference in that & what Broncos were charged with. Of course we have no idea why the Batley game was cancelled as the RFL have joined the David Hughes School of Communication.

As an elite sport I understood that clubs had to establish bubbles to minimise covid infections or "pings". Would therefore be difficult to swiftly integrate academy players into 1st team bubble. That worked pretty well for football & Union just doesn't seemed to have worked for league. Don't read the northern press but can't find any journalist trying to hold SL/RFL to account for the number of cancellations or the stupidity of their Championship decisions. Rest assured Fev will not be the only club breaching protocols although maybe the most public one.

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:53 pm 
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Quite surprised at the fines issued to 3 Super League Clubs, perhaps even shocked, Castleford, Huddersfield & Salford!

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Quite surprised at the fines issued to 3 Super League Clubs, perhaps even shocked, Castleford, Huddersfield & Salford!

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... dium=email

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 Post subject: Re: Toulouse August Home Games
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:47 pm 
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Deadcowboys1 wrote:So are you saying Halfdan that clubs have no responsibility for fulfilling fixtures if players "don't fancy it"? Anarchy down that road. If Batley or York say they cannot go because they have unvaccinated players who had that opportunity, surely they are failing to play the match. I see no difference in that & what Broncos were charged with. Of course we have no idea why the Batley game was cancelled as the RFL have joined the David Hughes School of Communication.

As an elite sport I understood that clubs had to establish bubbles to minimise covid infections or "pings". Would therefore be difficult to swiftly integrate academy players into 1st team bubble. That worked pretty well for football & Union just doesn't seemed to have worked for league. Don't read the northern press but can't find any journalist trying to hold SL/RFL to account for the number of cancellations or the stupidity of their Championship decisions. Rest assured Fev will not be the only club breaching protocols although maybe the most public one.


I'm saying if a player refused to have the vaccine I don't think there is anything the club van do about it so can't be held responsible for the player refusing.

Clearly that doesn't justify breaches of Covid protocols for which clubs are liable and should be punished, irrespective of vaccine status.

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