FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Warrington Wolves Holmes & Matautia



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 93 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:42 am 
International Star
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Aug 29 2012
Posts: 3084
Holmes is having a great season, particularly in attack where he's always gone under the radar for me a bit until now. The footwork to turn Coote inside out was sublime and he's got some engine on him too.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:23 am 
Club Owner
Club Captain

Joined: Apr 09 2004
Posts: 4113
[exturl][/exturl]
morrisseyisawire wrote:Holmes is having a great season, particularly in attack where he's always gone under the radar for me a bit until now. The footwork to turn Coote inside out was sublime and he's got some engine on him too.


Agree. Thing is he does his best work in that left-second row position, so is he slotting in there and where does Currie go?






Darlings of Super League

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:46 am 
Club Captain
Fringe Player

Joined: Apr 05 2018
Posts: 716
It's easy to see why Powell rates Mata'utia but I wasn't sure about Holmes at first. Since he signed I've watched him more closely and the more I see the happier I am. He's worked with Powell for a long time at Cas so I imagine part of the reason for bringing him is that he understands the coach and will help in getting the message across to the other players. He seems to put in a big shift every game and I've no doubt that he will improve our back row.

I few pieces of the jigsaw still to be put in place but recruitment is looking pretty good for next season.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:26 am 
Fringe Player
New Signing

Joined: Jul 09 2021
Posts: 11
My only worries is they won't improve, both have been under the same coach for a good few years so my guess is he has already brought the best out of them where as mamo at centre improve each game and could improve so much more under a new coach

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:43 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Feb 10 2012
Posts: 6051
Location: Stuck in 1982
I like Mamo as he offers something different on and off the pitch and at 27 he should be in his prime so Mata'utia has it all to do for me, more so than Holmes who I've always rated (that's a kiss of death then to his Wire career).

I suppose we will get to see whether Mamo improves under a new coach, just not here.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:58 pm 
Club Captain
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jul 17 2015
Posts: 4682
Location: Sitting on the naughty step
I’m in the “don’t want Mamo to go so his replacement had better be obviously better” camp!






Just my opinions unless it's a FACT, in which case it's a fact.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:31 pm 
First Team Player
Junior Player

Joined: Dec 25 2020
Posts: 134
Captain Hook wrote:I’m in the “don’t want Mamo to go so his replacement had better be obviously better” camp!


But Mamo has gone so we’ve got to move on.

With Matautia what you don’t get is the length of the field tries which I suppose creates a bit of excitement and he possibly doesn’t score enough for a centre.
What you do get though is a Samoan centre who to me doesn’t like taking a backward step, good under the high ball and strong defensively. He creates more tries for his wingers and lastly in big games when wannabe ‘ hard men’ like Bentley last night was trying to stamp his authority on the game with little elbows into faces after initial contact Matautia is first in looking after his mates.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:11 pm 
Club Captain
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jul 17 2015
Posts: 4682
Location: Sitting on the naughty step
Sparky1967 wrote:But Mamo has gone so we’ve got to move on.

With Matautia what you don’t get is the length of the field tries which I suppose creates a bit of excitement and he possibly doesn’t score enough for a centre.
What you do get though is a Samoan centre who to me doesn’t like taking a backward step, good under the high ball and strong defensively. He creates more tries for his wingers and lastly in big games when wannabe ‘ hard men’ like Bentley last night was trying to stamp his authority on the game with little elbows into faces after initial contact Matautia is first in looking after his mates.

That was my long winded way of saying he better hit the ground running or I’ll moan more than the average Saints fan does about the ref after a defeat.






Just my opinions unless it's a FACT, in which case it's a fact.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:44 pm 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Nov 15 2013
Posts: 3952
They both look the part, Holmes is a lot more than just solid and matautia is a proper out and out centre. Both of them seem to have a good attitude and work rate, I think they will fit in well and improve the first team.

As much as I love Mamo he isn't a centre, He has gone alright there and I do think we will miss having him in the squad but matautia looks like a good signing to me.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Holmes & Matautia
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:57 pm 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Apr 09 2015
Posts: 2981
just_browny wrote:[exturl][/exturl]Agree. Thing is he does his best work in that left-second row position, so is he slotting in there and where does Currie go?


I’d hope Currie would stay where he was, Holmes is an improvement on Hughes, but Currie is ahead of him IMO, so should stay in his favoured spot.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 93 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next





It is currently Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:43 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Douglas Black, matt_wire, Uncle Rico, Wire Weaver, wirecation and 178 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:43 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
32m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
210
56m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
56m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
57m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
59m
Film game
Boss Hog
5759
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
Recent
Salford
rubber ducki
55
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2610
Recent
Fixtures
BigTime
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
49s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
1m
Fixtures
BigTime
2
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Hullrealist
191
1m
Salford placed in special measures
poplar cats
111
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4047
1m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
192
3m
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
3m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
5m
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
6m
Salford
rubber ducki
55
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
BigTime
2
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
8
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
32m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
210
56m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
56m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
57m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
59m
Film game
Boss Hog
5759
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
Recent
Salford
rubber ducki
55
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2610
Recent
Fixtures
BigTime
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
49s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
1m
Fixtures
BigTime
2
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Hullrealist
191
1m
Salford placed in special measures
poplar cats
111
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hullrealist
4047
1m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
192
3m
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
3m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
5m
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
6m
Salford
rubber ducki
55
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
BigTime
2
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
8
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.