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 Post subject: Re: Racist teams
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:05 am 
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gary numan wrote:I don't agree with your common sense interpretation. Surely common sense says you don't fight racial discrimination with racial discrimination, it's totally counter intuitive. It seems a very convoluted argument to justify that these teams exist. Are we just playing at racial parity or are we serious. Racial exclusive anything should be consigned to the history books.



How are they promoting racial discrimination ?

Are they denying European descended players the right to play RL ?

Are they denying European descended settlers the right to express their cultural identity ?

Are they basing selections on colour of skin ?

The answer to all the above is No .

All those players are expressing their cultural identity and are still available to play in the Australian / NZ National teams SoO etc.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you just misunderstand what those teams are all about and what they represent.

Do having womens and men’s teams promote sexual discrimination ?






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 Post subject: Re: Racist teams
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:46 am 
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Durham Giant wrote:How are they promoting racial discrimination ?

Are they denying European descended players the right to play RL ?

Are they denying European descended settlers the right to express their cultural identity ?

Are they basing selections on colour of skin ?

The answer to all the above is No .

All those players are expressing their cultural identity and are still available to play in the Australian / NZ National teams SoO etc.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you just misunderstand what those teams are all about and what they represent.

Do having womens and men’s teams promote sexual discrimination ?
Don't think I said they are promoting it but they certainly are discriminating on race, you cannot deny that surely?

Are there teams that are denying indigenous peoples to play rl? So they form their own teams.

Is the only outlet to display their cultural identity a game of rugby that was born on another continent? If it was a traditional sport that they invented i would kind of get it but there is no logic to that argument.






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 Post subject: Re: Racist teams
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:44 pm 
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gary numan wrote:I don't agree with your common sense interpretation. Surely common sense says you don't fight racial discrimination with racial discrimination, it's totally counter intuitive. It seems a very convoluted argument to justify that these teams exist. Are we just playing at racial parity or are we serious. Racial exclusive anything should be consigned to the history books.


Fair enough. I think a complicated world sometimes demands more nuanced attitudes but I accept your argument is internally consistent.

It has at least made me think. When you flag an ambition for integration, it raises questions in my mind about diversity with equality… which in turn makes me think, somewhat uncomfortably, about the old Separate but Equal legal doctrine in the US. As I say, it is complicated.






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 Post subject: Re: Racist teams
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:34 pm 
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gary numan wrote:The RFL are considering having 'indigenous ' teams from Australia and new Zealand play in the world Cup.

So, real Australians and New Zealanders?

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Dally2 wrote:So, real Australians and New Zealanders?

Isn't everyone that is born in those countries regardless of race?






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Jack Burton wrote:What is this about?


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Poky wrote:Warrington wolves.

Other animals are also welcome at Warrington :D






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