Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:18 pm
paulwalker71
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Joined: Dec 31 2005 Posts: 4571 Location: Bradford
I agree with those who argue for streaming
After all, it was only a year or two back the Bulls were at the forefront of arguing FOR streaming. Weren't we the pioneers of streaming live on Facebook - I'm looking at you Mr Gledhill?
As someone who has very recently moved away from the area, I don't expect to get to many, if any, live games in the future. If I can't watch it via a stream then I'm going to be a supporter 'lost to the game' - which after more than 50 years of being at Odsal is a crying shame.
Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:48 am
MicktheGled
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Joined: Jan 23 2008 Posts: 8034 Location: The Provident Stadium, Odsal.
paulwalker71 wrote:I agree with those who argue for streaming
After all, it was only a year or two back the Bulls were at the forefront of arguing FOR streaming. Weren't we the pioneers of streaming live on Facebook - I'm looking at you Mr Gledhill?
As someone who has very recently moved away from the area, I don't expect to get to many, if any, live games in the future. If I can't watch it via a stream then I'm going to be a supporter 'lost to the game' - which after more than 50 years of being at Odsal is a crying shame.
Come on guys, move with the times!
The problem between what happened in 2018 and now is that there are no streaming issues regarding League One, so 2018 was only possible because of the lack of rights issues.
As we move from 2021 into 2022 and Sky Sports no longer having a hold on proceedings, then expect this landscape to change as clubs will be forced to maximise all potential revenue streams to try and offset the 40% plus loss of central funding.
Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:47 pm
Bulliac
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Just out of interest, what price do people feel is a fair price to view the stream? Bearing in mind that one download can be seen by just one individual or by a clubroom full - and of course that the club needs to make money, or at very least, can't afford to lose out. The major problem to me is that once one subscription is paid for no-one can control how it is used/abused.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:19 pm
Bully_Boxer
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Joined: Mar 03 2005 Posts: 9202 Location: Odsal Stadium
Bulliac wrote:Just out of interest, what price do people feel is a fair price to view the stream? Bearing in mind that one download can be seen by just one individual or by a clubroom full - and of course that the club needs to make money, or at very least, can't afford to lose out. The major problem to me is that once one subscription is paid for no-one can control how it is used/abused.
Not sure on an individual basis, but put it this way if the club guaranteed a stream available to all normal season ticket holders I would buy one without hesitation next season. I wouldn't even consider buying a normal season ticket because I know I wouldn't be able or interested in attending every game at home in person.
I guess they would have to trial it and yes perhaps there might be abuse of it in some small way but I'm not convinced people would stop attending in large numbers.
Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:20 pm
ChinaBull
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Joined: Jan 09 2011 Posts: 1925 Location: 广东佛山市顺德区中国 Guangdong Fo Shan City Shun De China
Ive said how hard it is to get coverage being an expat but ...
for most of us ... im sure we would rather be at a game, being at a game is second to none ( if i had the dough, sure id fly back for every home game ), that said many cant so why deny them a live stream and also earn the club money. Just dont deny also the overseas bulls fans as ive found out many of these sevices are IP reliant (dont have a GB/England IP ... cant get access).
Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:29 am
The Phantom Horseman
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Bulliac wrote:Just out of interest, what price do people feel is a fair price to view the stream? Bearing in mind that one download can be seen by just one individual or by a clubroom full - and of course that the club needs to make money, or at very least, can't afford to lose out. The major problem to me is that once one subscription is paid for no-one can control how it is used/abused.
Yep this is one issue for sure. Have seen reports that the numbers watching games via the streams are exceeding by some margin the number of purchases.
Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:05 pm
paulwalker71
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Joined: Dec 31 2005 Posts: 4571 Location: Bradford
MicktheGled wrote:The problem between what happened in 2018 and now is that there are no streaming issues regarding League One, so 2018 was only possible because of the lack of rights issues.
As we move from 2021 into 2022 and Sky Sports no longer having a hold on proceedings, then expect this landscape to change as clubs will be forced to maximise all potential revenue streams to try and offset the 40% plus loss of central funding.
Post subject: Re: No streaming of the Widnes fixture
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:30 pm
Bully_Boxer
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Joined: Mar 03 2005 Posts: 9202 Location: Odsal Stadium
I guess it depends whether those who might choose to watch it at the local club or pub would have otherwise attended the match, now I am sure there might be SOME that would do that but would it stop the great majority from attending? And for those that might choose to do that, would additional sales to people like myself who can't commit to every game but would very likely buy one if I knew I could watch the stream live or the same evening if I couldn't make the game in person make up for that?
For me, today is a prime example I could have attended and if I had bought a season ticket I would of gone. As it is, I've had a busy week at work and the game slipped my mind in all honesty. I assume I have to pre-purchase a ticket at the moment? It's not something I've looked into as I've had things on since we returned to Odsal, but I might try and sort a ticket for next week against Batley. Going to games is very much a habit and it is very easy to get out of the habit and find other things to do, it is up to the club to make it as easy and as attractive as possible to get people through the gates.
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), that said many cant so why deny them a live stream and also earn the club money. Just dont deny also the overseas bulls fans as ive found out many of these sevices are IP reliant (dont have a GB/England IP ... cant get access).
