Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:07 pm
wrencat1873
Club Coach
Joined: Apr 24 2011 Posts: 17980
I dont know if Leigh are the worst ever SL team, only time will tell on that one. However, compared to other clubs, they've certainly had the least time to prepare for the top flight, which is a huge disadvantage, especially for the first part of the season. It's difficult to know who would be available but, I might have expected more in the way of players coming in, although, there may still be time.. Having said that, I'm sure that their application for the "golden ticket" will have said that they were absolutely ready and able to compete.
Would they have been better trying to gain promotion through the GF and then recruiting in the usual manner or, was this a chance too good to pass by. Also, would any of the other applicants have fared any better. Again, only time will tell.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:38 pm
Leyther14
International Star
Joined: Nov 16 2011 Posts: 342
Some interesting posts here. More ideas than the RL have has in years. Think the references to SL clubs protecting short term interests is right. Think whoever would have been promoted we would have been in same position. The lure of SL was to much to turn down, retrospectively the champ clubs should have negotiated the terms as they had some leverage at the time. When teams step on to effectively save RFL face should be some incentive. The lower budget on top of prep time was killer.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:53 pm
Cokey
Club Owner
Joined: Aug 19 2011 Posts: 21796 Location: Across The Universe....... Jai guru deva om - Nothings gonna change my world.
wrencat1873 wrote:I dont know if Leigh are the worst ever SL team, only time will tell on that one. However, compared to other clubs, they've certainly had the least time to prepare for the top flight, which is a huge disadvantage, especially for the first part of the season. It's difficult to know who would be available but, I might have expected more in the way of players coming in, although, there may still be time.. Having said that, I'm sure that their application for the "golden ticket" will have said that they were absolutely ready and able to compete.
Would they have been better trying to gain promotion through the GF and then recruiting in the usual manner or, was this a chance too good to pass by. Also, would any of the other applicants have fared any better. Again, only time will tell.
Great post Wrenners . With only less than 2k fans turning up at the LSV, the proof is in the pudding but, it looks like that the pudding doesn't taste good, hence the attendance. I agree with the part i have put in bold and underlined in your post. Having said that hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:18 pm
wrencat1873
Club Coach
Joined: Apr 24 2011 Posts: 17980
Cokey wrote:Great post Wrenners . With only less than 2k fans turning up at the LSV, the proof is in the pudding but, it looks like that the pudding doesn't taste good, hence the attendance. I agree with the part i have put in bold and underlined in your post. Having said that hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I've said before that, if/when Leigh get their best 13/17 on the pitch, they will win some games and still believe that they will. The debacle at Toronto, coupled with covid and basically no Championship rugby last season made the situation extremely difficult and in fairness, there was no certainty of Championship rugby this season, which would have been an absolute killer. Therefore, as you rightly say, Leigh had no choice but to throw their cap in the ring.
Personally, I think that Fev, on the basis of the GF defeat the previous season, were "heir apparent" and really the SL spot should have been theirs to refuse. Having said that, with the depth of DB's pockets and Leigh's ability to be able to start and finish the season, it's easy to understand why they got the nod. Leigh have some great fans and an excellent ground and I hope that you can some how survive, obviously not at Trinity's expense Enjoy the rest of the season and hopefully, I may get to watch Your lads take on the Mighty Trin at your place.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:20 pm
RagingBull
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 26 2006 Posts: 1219
Well Degsy certainly wasnt expecting them to be this bad. In his interview with Brain Carney before the 1st game of the season he said that after 6 games no one would consider Leigh relegation candidates and they would be comfortable in mid table at that point. Yet here we are 11 games in they are winless conceeding 38 points a game on average
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Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:27 pm
Cokey
Club Owner
Joined: Aug 19 2011 Posts: 21796 Location: Across The Universe....... Jai guru deva om - Nothings gonna change my world.
wrencat1873 wrote:I've said before that, if/when Leigh get their best 13/17 on the pitch, they will win some games and still believe that they will. The debacle at Toronto, coupled with covid and basically no Championship rugby last season made the situation extremely difficult and in fairness, there was no certainty of Championship rugby this season, which would have been an absolute killer. Therefore, as you rightly say, Leigh had no choice but to throw their cap in the ring.
Personally, I think that Fev, on the basis of the GF defeat the previous season, were "heir apparent" and really the SL spot should have been theirs to refuse. Having said that, with the depth of DB's pockets and Leigh's ability to be able to start and finish the season, it's easy to understand why they got the nod. Leigh have some great fans and an excellent ground and I hope that you can some how survive, obviously not at Trinity's expense Enjoy the rest of the season and hopefully, I may get to watch Your lads take on the Mighty Trin at your place.
I'll buy you a pint if we do
Can't disagree with that mate. Now then, Sun 12th September with a 3pm kick off, I'll be in the Centurion Pub @ 1pm to receive my pint off you. Hopefully we can talk about both Leigh & Trin surviving the drop. No doubt Trin will tho.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:38 pm
wrencat1873
Club Coach
Joined: Apr 24 2011 Posts: 17980
Cokey wrote:Can't disagree with that mate. Now then, Sun 12th September with a 3pm kick off, I'll be in the Centurion Pub @ 1pm to receive my pint off you. Hopefully we can talk about both Leigh & Trin surviving the drop. No doubt Trin will tho.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:11 pm
Huddersfield1895
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Joined: Feb 18 2011 Posts: 1863
wire-quin wrote:Accepting they were thrown in last minute on half budget with no SL players available to buy, are they the worst ever SL team?
No Championship team should have accepted the offer to play in Super League this season. It was stacked against any club going up at such short notice and with only half the TV money that other Super League clubs get
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Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:13 pm
Salford red all over
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Poky wrote:Leigh recruited for the championship expecting to be playing there so it’s a bit unfair on them.
I would say, over the length of SL based on a number of factors like league finish, support, stadium, quality of academy etc it’s easily out of Wakefield and Salford for worst ever SL team
Why do you do it ? does getting a response equal a pull off ???
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