FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Hull FC Round 4 v Wakefield



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 185 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Round 4 v Wakefield
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:20 pm 
Club Coach
International Star

Joined: Nov 03 2004
Posts: 7008
MorningGlory23 wrote:
ComeOnYouUll wrote:Didn't matter in the end but why did Thaler send this up as a No Try and why didn't the video ref overrule it?

Image

Because the refs and video refs are completely useless


I believe it is because in the process of the ball leaving his right hand the ball is resting on the wakey players leg and in contact. The moment when he transfers the ball from his right hand to left hand it looked to me like it bobbled.

It’s a 50/50 one. Wakey have had multiple this year chalked off. If the ref had sent as try it would have been given but there was enough to not overule the “no try” on field call.

I’ve felt hard done to as wakey have been in wrong end of loads of these. I personally think the on field call should be abolished and it should simply be sent up.

To be perfectly honest though I’m not sure if it was this try but the set leading up to one of Hulls try’sa hull player lost the ball (juggled it) and it hit a wakey defender and shot back to a hull player. Ref gave 6 again but was clearly a know on. I think it either led to this or a previous try so I was fuming at that but you just have to accept these decisions happen. It’s a sad state of affairs really but I feel the officials are right up against it. I’m not sure if 2 refs is the answer either.






Top six 2005 - Trinity.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Round 4 v Wakefield
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:37 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Sep 04 2006
Posts: 6345
Location: Hull
Trojan Horse wrote:I picked it up at the time. He was in the line and Wood was sliding but “blocked” albeit momentarily the gap that was hit was where wood was sliding. Wood did not “take the bait” as he didn’t attempt to tackle Savelio but was sliding and simply blocked.

You have seen trys chalked off for far less and if it had gone up it could have been chalked off.

We can cry that we lost yet another player for HIA for the next game and this game too big the way cards are handed out and band is such a confusing element of the game you just lose all interest. As always the team that follows will benefit.

Not that I think we deserved to win. We lost composure in the final 10 gifting hull possession with silly offloads and mistakes in our own half. At least we didn’t collapse for a 20-30 minute spell this week.

We are up against it though as I think Hampshire broke his jaw and Jowitt could miss 4 weeks due to 2 concussions.

Add that to the current injury list.

Jowitt
Hampshire
TJ
Miller
Ashurst
Tupou
Josh Wood
A.Walker

I swear someone at wakey has smashed too many mirrors.




Saveillo didn't change his run into the defender, he is entitled to run that line. Woods hand also ended up around Saviello which is odd for a player not attempting to tackle..






Twitter : @TheResidentPete

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Round 4 v Wakefield
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:01 pm 
Club Captain
Junior Player
User avatar

Joined: Mar 21 2017
Posts: 158
Location: Back to God's own country!
Trojan Horse wrote:I believe it is because in the process of the ball leaving his right hand the ball is resting on the wakey players leg and in contact. The moment when he transfers the ball from his right hand to left hand it looked to me like it bobbled.

It’s a 50/50 one. Wakey have had multiple this year chalked off. If the ref had sent as try it would have been given but there was enough to not overule the “no try” on field call.

I’ve felt hard done to as wakey have been in wrong end of loads of these. I personally think the on field call should be abolished and it should simply be sent up.

To be perfectly honest though I’m not sure if it was this try but the set leading up to one of Hulls try’sa hull player lost the ball (juggled it) and it hit a wakey defender and shot back to a hull player. Ref gave 6 again but was clearly a know on. I think it either led to this or a previous try so I was fuming at that but you just have to accept these decisions happen. It’s a sad state of affairs really but I feel the officials are right up against it. I’m not sure if 2 refs is the answer either.


To be honest (and I'm genuinely not having a go at you, Trojan Horse) we ALL tend to see things in the game from our own perspective and focus on our own team's bad luck/calls (me included), usually ignoring the bad luck/calls that the opposition get. For example, for Wakey's 3rd try it looked very much like the player chasing down Sneyd's kick (Batchelor?) COULD be offside, and if he isn't then, unless I'm mistaken, the player lying the wrong side of the tackle on Taylor (Mason Lino) who gets the ball from Batchelor's charge-down IS definitely offside and can't get involved in the next play (and can't be played onside). Thus the try should not have been awarded.

So we all cite examples of being hard done by, without the balance of things that went our way.






"If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't." - Emerson M. Pugh

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Round 4 v Wakefield
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:12 pm 
Club Coach
International Star

Joined: Nov 03 2004
Posts: 7008
pmarrow wrote:
Trojan Horse wrote:I picked it up at the time. He was in the line and Wood was sliding but “blocked” albeit momentarily the gap that was hit was where wood was sliding. Wood did not “take the bait” as he didn’t attempt to tackle Savelio but was sliding and simply blocked.

You have seen trys chalked off for far less and if it had gone up it could have been chalked off.

We can cry that we lost yet another player for HIA for the next game and this game too big the way cards are handed out and band is such a confusing element of the game you just lose all interest. As always the team that follows will benefit.

Not that I think we deserved to win. We lost composure in the final 10 gifting hull possession with silly offloads and mistakes in our own half. At least we didn’t collapse for a 20-30 minute spell this week.

We are up against it though as I think Hampshire broke his jaw and Jowitt could miss 4 weeks due to 2 concussions.

Add that to the current injury list.

Jowitt
Hampshire
TJ
Miller
Ashurst
Tupou
Josh Wood
A.Walker

I swear someone at wakey has smashed too many mirrors.




Saveillo didn't change his run into the defender, he is entitled to run that line. Woods hand also ended up around Saviello which is odd for a player not attempting to tackle..


While I get what your saying Wood was sliding laterally and Savelio was in the line which i the cause of the contact. I’m not quite sure what you wanted Wood to do. I don’t think phasing through Savelio was an option...






Top six 2005 - Trinity.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Round 4 v Wakefield
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:14 pm 
Club Coach
International Star

Joined: Nov 03 2004
Posts: 7008
Homenaway wrote:To be honest (and I'm genuinely not having a go at you, Trojan Horse) we ALL tend to see things in the game from our own perspective and focus on our own team's bad luck/calls (me included), usually ignoring the bad luck/calls that the opposition get. For example, for Wakey's 3rd try it looked very much like the player chasing down Sneyd's kick (Batchelor?) COULD be offside, and if he isn't then, unless I'm mistaken, the player lying the wrong side of the tackle on Taylor (Mason Lino) who gets the ball from Batchelor's charge-down IS definitely offside and can't get involved in the next play (and can't be played onside). Thus the try should not have been awarded.

So we all cite examples of being hard done by, without the balance of things that went our way.


No worries, I guess it highlights the issues in officiating we have when both sets of fans can pick so many faults for their respective teams.

I respect the refs have a tough job but I think they need more help and the officiating structure needs looking at.






Top six 2005 - Trinity.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 185 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 15, 16, 17, 18, 19





It is currently Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:45 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: al283, Jake the Peg and 320 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:45 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
41m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4060
53m
Film game
Boss Hog
5934
58m
2025 Recruitment
Bully_Boxer
250
Recent
Ground Improvements
Redscat
256
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
MadDogg
28918
Recent
2025 Shirt
Azul
31
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63306
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40841
Recent
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
bullinenemyl
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
1m
2025 Shirt
Azul
31
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2647
2m
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
2m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
196
3m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
3m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
27
3m
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
3m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
14
3m
Salford
Chris McKean
65
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
31
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
41m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4060
53m
Film game
Boss Hog
5934
58m
2025 Recruitment
Bully_Boxer
250
Recent
Ground Improvements
Redscat
256
Recent
Rumours and signings v9
MadDogg
28918
Recent
2025 Shirt
Azul
31
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63306
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40841
Recent
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
bullinenemyl
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
1m
2025 Shirt
Azul
31
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2647
2m
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
2m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
196
3m
Refs referring it to video as a try or not
karetaker
23
3m
Super League
Dr Dreadnoug
27
3m
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
3m
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Deadcowboys1
14
3m
Salford
Chris McKean
65
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Challenge Cup
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Friendlies
Deadcowboys1
3
TODAY
Sam Luckley likely to miss the beginning of new season
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Frankie Halton sign new deal
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Transfer chatter for 2025 - New Dec 1st tamper date
Jake the Peg
10
TODAY
Trinity shop Sunday opening
phe13
1
TODAY
Tyler Craig
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
27
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
Vic Mackie
19
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
31
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
52
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.