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 Post subject: Re: Tom Johnstone
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:12 am 
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Steph Curry wrote:Makinson is the only Golden Boot winner in SL.


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 Post subject: Re: Tom Johnstone
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:31 am 
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snowie wrote:how did he go over the weekend?

He maintained his strike rate of over one try every game he plays, as a result of not playing through injury.

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 Post subject: Re: Tom Johnstone
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:36 am 
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Steph Curry wrote:At international level you need to be able to defend which is why we should go with Makinson and McGilvray



You must not watch the Giants very much as Mcgilvrays defence is not the best (although his centre partner does not always help)

If I was choosing the England team I would have Johnstone over McGilvray atm






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 Post subject: Re: Tom Johnstone
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:37 am 
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Grimmy wrote:He's working his way into a spot if he stays injury free and keeps that up. The term 'World Class' is bandied about far too easily though when people just mean 'very good'. World class should mean you would be in contention to make a World 17. I'm not sure we have any world class players in Super League right now to be honest. Maybe Bateman.


That first try was "world class", you will struggle to see a better try this season by anyone else and if you do, that too could be said to be a world class try. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Tom Johnstone
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:39 am 
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vastman wrote:Luckily nobody does pick on strike rate alone.

Greg Eden is a great finisher and an all round decent player, a especially good team player.

However I know and I’d be amazed if you didn’t know is that he’s lacking composure, star quality, call it what you want.

TJ’s strike rate is right up their with Eden but when you then dissect that into how many were just being on the end of a great team play and how many were sheer individual brilliance then Eden is nowhere near Tom.

Tom rarely gets a walk-in especially in recent years since becoming a marked man yet the strike rate remains, the quality just gets better.

That is what you want at international level.

Put it this way, Powell ia a genuinely shrewd coach, if he were GB coach who do you think he’d pick - not Eden I guarantee you that.

Now for your truly stupid comment that Eden is by far the best in terms of strike rate, rubbish, he’s marginally better per game. To be by far the best as you assert he’d need to be scoring 2 tries per game at least and he doesn’t. Monumentally stupid comment even accepting the context you put it in..


That's your interpretation. Eden is the only player who actually scores more than a try a game - and he's therefore far better than the others listed.
Both players have something you can't coach: acceleration, pace and a natural instinct of where to be (unfortunately, in Eden's case that doesn't apply to defence).
Part of me would like to see Johnstone at a top team like Cas where he has even more opportunities, but part of me wants him to stay at Wakefield where he has such loyal supporters.
Would I pick him for England in the World Cup? Yes, if he plays better than the other options we have. Makinson is a shoe-in for the right-wing spot, but that other side is very much open for any player who puts together a strong season.

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 Post subject: Re: Tom Johnstone
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:43 am 
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nottinghamtiger wrote:He maintained his strike rate of over one try every game he plays, as a result of not playing through injury.
is he injured or has he been left again as Powell did seem to have an issue with last season, has his case been heard as yet

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 Post subject: Re: Tom Johnstone
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:54 am 
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nottinghamtiger wrote:That's your interpretation. Eden is the only player who actually scores more than a try a game - and he's therefore far better than the others listed.
Both players have something you can't coach: acceleration, pace and a natural instinct of where to be (unfortunately, in Eden's case that doesn't apply to defence).
Part of me would like to see Johnstone at a top team like Cas where he has even more opportunities, but part of me wants him to stay at Wakefield where he has such loyal supporters.
Would I pick him for England in the World Cup? Yes, if he plays better than the other options we have. Makinson is a shoe-in for the right-wing spot, but that other side is very much open for any player who puts together a strong season.


"A top team like Cas" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He hasnt got the requisite number of fingers to play for Cas and they are not a top team.

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snowie wrote:is he injured or has he been left again as Powell did seem to have an issue with last season, has his case been heard as yet


Injured at the moment. He was getting picked at the back end of 2020 and playing very well. As you say, though, Powell doesn't seem to like his 'unpredictability' at times!
He's due to stand trial later in the year.

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wrencat1873 wrote:"A top team like Cas" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He hasnt got the requisite number of fingers to play for Cas and they are not a top team.


Okay, a decent team like Cas!
I would love an NRL team to take a chance with him to be honest - I think he's got what it takes to be a top winger over there. I know they won't, but imagine him replacing Addo-Carr at Melbourne. I'd love to see him given the chance over there, but it would be a loss to SL.

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I’m more concerned about our halfback options then our options for the wings.

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