Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:34 am
Highlander
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Joined: Oct 26 2005 Posts: 3251 Location: Bradford
Hallas was a blow. After 15minutes, especially as he’s usually good for 50+ tackles a game. And I thought we were fairly comfortable for the first 15minutes. Immediately, all our middles will have to do an extra 5minutes per stint - at least 2 more defensive sets each - which in game terms fitted in with Fevs 2 “purple patches”. And the individual errors, just invited workload. If you drop the ball, you invite back to back defensive sets, which are tiring. In summary, I thought the positives from that game far outweighed any negatives. And anyway - those taking the Mickey about Ant Walker - did you see Dale Ferguson? He was at least 1 1/2 Ant Walkers....
Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:21 am
Ewwenorfolk
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Joined: Oct 03 2006 Posts: 12310
I agree that there is reason for optimism when we have Lilley, England and Murphy available.
I’m not sure about the quality of a lot of our new signings, although I’ll obviously give them time and hope they improve.
I don’t understand why we’d play players that are clearly unfit in a competitive game though. Was Nzongou available? He looked in much better shape than Walker. If he’s not worth a place over someone so unfit who has been out of the game for so long then why is he part of our squad?
Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:25 am
Ewwenorfolk
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Highlander wrote:Hallas was a blow. After 15minutes, especially as he’s usually good for 50+ tackles a game. And I thought we were fairly comfortable for the first 15minutes. Immediately, all our middles will have to do an extra 5minutes per stint - at least 2 more defensive sets each - which in game terms fitted in with Fevs 2 “purple patches”. And the individual errors, just invited workload. If you drop the ball, you invite back to back defensive sets, which are tiring. In summary, I thought the positives from that game far outweighed any negatives. And anyway - those taking the Mickey about Ant Walker - did you see Dale Ferguson? He was at least 1 1/2 Ant Walkers....
You mean the Ferguson that broke through a tackle, offloaded and created a try? How many times did any of our forwards do that?
Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:53 am
Greg Florimos Boots
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You won't be the only team that gets hammered by Fev this season. I thought you did ok in spells but it was clear your big forwards were running out of steam, Its strange Bradford going in that direction with the new rule changes that obviousy favour more mobile long minute players, and Fev took full advantage. We have only seen a few games this season but from what I have seen Im now expecting a very distinct top 3, allowing for Toulouse competing, and then throw a blanket over the rest and oldham very clear at the bottom. Those 3 teams will never get a better chance to get in to SL so there is a lot at stake for them.
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Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:33 am
Bullseye
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I know what you're saying about the big blokes and the new rules but I think there's still a place for them. Looking at the NRL there are still a lot of teams using them. The difference is they're actually quite fit. You still need them to get the team moving forward. Look at the likes of Fonua Blake and Papalii, not exactly skinny but have great engines.
Hopefully we do sign Evans and we can get him in the side soon. I don't think Walker will figure again against the top sides until he can shift a couple of stones worth of lard. He was only on the field for 5 mins before he was having a breather at marker. It's not worth having someone in the side that can be so easily exposed against the good teams.
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Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:59 am
Highlander
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Joined: Oct 26 2005 Posts: 3251 Location: Bradford
Ewwenorfolk wrote:You mean the Ferguson that broke through a tackle, offloaded and created a try? How many times did any of our forwards do that?
C'mon pal, context...
I accept that their overweight impact forward, who was not used for 60minutes because they had the luxury of rotating their other 3 forwards on the bench to keep him fresh until they could put him on against tired opposition forwards, would have an impact....but that's as far as I'll go lol
It is noteworthy that of the 34 players on the pitch, only 1 went off with a muscle injury, which is usually a sign of a poor warmup or poor conditioning - and that was Mr Ferguson, who only played about 10minutes before pulling his hamstring, according to a post on the Fev forum.
Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:15 am
Bullseye
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Highlander wrote:It is noteworthy that of the 34 players on the pitch, only 1 went off with a muscle injury, which is usually a sign of a poor warmup or poor conditioning - and that was Mr Ferguson, who only played about 10minutes before pulling his hamstring, according to a post on the Fev forum.
Of the 34 players on the pitch we had more with obviously massive guts, usually a sign of no conditioning.
That said I agree re Hallas. He's a workhorse for us and we missed that.
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Post subject: Re: Challenge Cup Round 1 vs. Featherstone Rovers
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:29 am
Highlander
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Bullseye wrote:Of the 34 players on the pitch we had more with obviously massive guts, usually a sign of no conditioning.
You've said this a few times - Walker, I get. Crossley? Is that the other one? His build looked similar to the last few seasons. Fleming , Scurr as the other 2 props looked solid. Gallagher, rooks, Hallas all looked in good condition. Nothing much had changed with Flanagan. Doyle looked to have bulked up (power) a little. In fact all the younger guys looked like they have added a few kg of muscle over the last year. Maybe Scurr gone too much for power, not enough mobility? So I make that 2. Fev had 1.
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