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 Post subject: Liar, Liar !
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:28 am 
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Never known for being good on detail.
Bojo has been telling porkies in Parliament (again) but, in a bizarre world, apparently, it's up to the Prime Minister of the day to deal with anyone in the telling lies in the HoP.

In fairness, it's just another episode in our current government, riding roughshod over the rulebook and doing whatever he pleases.

It's time for the opposition to puff their chests out and do something but, I'm not sure if they have it in them. :oops:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:05 am 
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The good thing is that you can tell when he is lying his mouth is moving. He has adopted the Trump philosophy of never admit or apologise when you are found out. It could be time to bring the American fact checker over to go through his many falsehoods.

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wrencat1873 wrote:Never known for being good on detail.
Bojo has been telling porkies in Parliament (again) but, in a bizarre world, apparently, it's up to the Prime Minister of the day to deal with anyone in the telling lies in the HoP.

In fairness, it's just another episode in our current government, riding roughshod over the rulebook and doing whatever he pleases.

It's time for the opposition to puff their chests out and do something but, I'm not sure if they have it in them. :oops:


I would agree with this - a huge majority brings issues of democracy - how many of the current restrictions have been imposed without any debate/vote in Parliament.

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Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:I would agree with this - a huge majority brings issues of democracy - how many of the current restrictions have been imposed without any debate/vote in Parliament.


At the risk of sounding like my dad, standards are definitely slipping.
The stuff going on at the moment, just wouldn't have happened 10/20 years ago.

Is this due to the Tory majority or, it it more to do with who is in charge ?

Personally, although standards do inevitably slip, this is down to Bojo and his "carefree" style.
He is a poor mans Trump, although, this is probably better than the real thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Liar, Liar !
PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:41 am 
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wrencat1873 wrote:At the risk of sounding like my dad, standards are definitely slipping.
The stuff going on at the moment, just wouldn't have happened 10/20 years ago.

Is this due to the Tory majority or, it it more to do with who is in charge ?

Personally, although standards do inevitably slip, this is down to Bojo and his "carefree" style.
He is a poor mans Trump, although, this is probably better than the real thing.

I don't know, there's been some whoppers over the years, Blair and his weapons of mass destruction, John Major and the Maastricht treaty "its a minor alteration to the wording", Dennis Healey saying inflation was 12% when it was nearly 25 and of course uncle Ted Heath and the "common market".

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wotsupcas wrote:I don't know, there's been some whoppers over the years, Blair and his weapons of mass destruction, John Major and the Maastricht treaty "its a minor alteration to the wording", Dennis Healey saying inflation was 12% when it was nearly 25 and of course uncle Ted Heath and the "common market".


I think it is the shamelessness and routine way that Johnson lies that have normalised it, to the point where it doesn’t really cause a stir. It is just what he does and it isn’t news because it isn’t new.

Your first example massively damaged Blair’s reputation and legacy. He’d prefer otherwise but he understands it, at least. Johnson’s reputation is as a liar so it can’t be harmed much more in that regard - it is baked in and weirdly widely accepted. It seems that he either doesn’t understand or doesn’t care about the distinction between fact and falsehood.

Big chunks of the UK and US electorates clearly see something that isn’t obvious to me in the likes of Trump and Johnson. ‘Charisma’ maybe? Or they miss something that is obvious to me. Or they just like liars now. At least Johnson is openly and transparently dishonest I suppose!






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

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wrencat1873 wrote:At the risk of sounding like my dad, standards are definitely slipping.
The stuff going on at the moment, just wouldn't have happened 10/20 years ago.

Is this due to the Tory majority or, it it more to do with who is in charge ?

Personally, although standards do inevitably slip, this is down to Bojo and his "carefree" style.
He is a poor mans Trump, although, this is probably better than the real thing.


I feel like the catalyst was the financial crisis of 2007-08 and the fallout from it. Nobody in power offered a different or better vision for economic politics, opening the door for the populists and their easy slogans.






'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.

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 Post subject: Re: Liar, Liar !
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I would agree about Johnson - he would be OK if he had a cabinet of the quality of say Thatcher with the intellectual power of the likes of Heseltine, Clark, Joseph, Lawson and the low cunning of a Tebbit. He could then be a cheerleader unfortunately he doesn't have the horsepower in the cabinet so we end up with the current shower and worse still with no challenge from the opposition its a free for all

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Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:I would agree about Johnson - he would be OK if he had a cabinet of the quality of say Thatcher with the intellectual power of the likes of Heseltine, Clark, Joseph, Lawson and the low cunning of a Tebbit. He could then be a cheerleader unfortunately he doesn't have the horsepower in the cabinet so we end up with the current shower and worse still with no challenge from the opposition its a free for all


Probably to do with the fact that he purged his party of anyone who dared to disagree with him and with it, many of the more "reasonable" Tories and we are now left with a buffoon doing as he pleases but, not actually delivering too much.
It's just lie after lie, false promise after false promise, much as we heard during the Brexit campaign and the hypocrisy over the Nurses and NHS staff, to whom he owes his life, is nothing short of disgraceful.

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The problem is he has filled his cabinet with many who are also strangers to the truth. We have in the last 24 hours had Gove and Patel both found to have misled but as per usual will not admit it. The problem for the latter is she is up against Cooper who will not let it drop.

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