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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:31 pm 
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https://open.spotify.com/episode/5M37E7 ... pi0LvQkFEg

Good listen here with Scott Taylor. Starts with some insight on the new approach from Hodgson and his thoughts on Reynolds, then the story of his career, finishes with what next. Very clear that we can't say we're a top 4 team or entitled to talk about trophies given our performances since 2017, let's concentrate on starting well, working hard, and correcting defence which he describes as disgraceful last year. Feet very much on the ground, good to hear.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5M37E7 ... pi0LvQkFEg

Good listen here with Scott Taylor. Starts with some insight on the new approach from Hodgson and his thoughts on Reynolds, then the story of his career, finishes with what next. Very clear that we can't say we're a top 4 team or entitled to talk about trophies given our performances since 2017, let's concentrate on starting well, working hard, and correcting defence which he describes as disgraceful last year. Feet very much on the ground, good to hear.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:59 pm 
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The Hollywood Frasier wrote:He really wasn't though was he ? The form Tony showed during our 13 game winning streak was unreal, the only reason Briscoe got moved back to fullback was because of Blacklock retiring. In fact Briscoe was tried on the wing first but was terrible there so Tony got moved there because there was nobody else and it significantly weakened our team.

We'll agree to disagree, Briscoe was an out and out FB, scored many of his tries backing up, was a superb defender/tackler and solid under the high ball. Motu had more flair, better passer, could kick and was more elusive and as I said could cover many positions, but during that run we were dominant across the park playing some lovely rugby, it's easy to focus on a short period of time when we were largely dominant, I remember him having some right stinkers at FB.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
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48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote:And yet again you just couldn't leave it could you!
So having a differing opinion that didn't meet with others approval warranted been constantly attacked including personally including by you hence my response. You made an inflammatory comment in the first instance and you got one back, yours and others asinine comments towards posters when it comes to disagreeing with an alternate viewpoint is what makes this forum so toxic. Yet you can't even see or admit that it is the puerile posts that make it such, and those posts do not add anything to the forum and ARE meaningless!

Stick to commenting on the rugby and everything is fine, why is that so hard for you and others to understand, or is it that you simply want to cause ructions and force people off the forum when you don't agree because you can't have a reasoned discussion?

I came in peace and leave in peace :CRAZY:
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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
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Interesting press conference with questions to Brett Hodgson and Josh Reynolds. Free to view

https://hullfc.mysportsonline.uk/video/Press_Conference_Brett_Hodgson_Josh_Reynolds_Pre_Season_2021/2920
Interesting press conference with questions to Brett Hodgson and Josh Reynolds. Free to view

https://hullfc.mysportsonline.uk/video/Press_Conference_Brett_Hodgson_Josh_Reynolds_Pre_Season_2021/2920

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:38 pm 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Interesting press conference with questions to Brett Hodgson and Josh Reynolds. Free to view

https://hullfc.mysportsonline.uk/video/Press_Conference_Brett_Hodgson_Josh_Reynolds_Pre_Season_2021/2920


Interesting quiff from our new 6. :D
ComeOnYouUll wrote:Interesting press conference with questions to Brett Hodgson and Josh Reynolds. Free to view

https://hullfc.mysportsonline.uk/video/Press_Conference_Brett_Hodgson_Josh_Reynolds_Pre_Season_2021/2920


Interesting quiff from our new 6. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:08 pm 
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Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.

A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.

It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.

One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.

Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.
Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.

A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.

It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.

One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.

Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:57 pm 
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48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote:Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.

A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.

It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.

One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.

Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.


Rugby league is a brutal game and it's just inevitable that players will sometimes have to play through a little niggle or a bit of fatigue. But I agree with you, flogging players until they break just doesn't do anyone any good. You carry a 30 man squad for a reason, and whilst you want to have your best players playing as much as possible, you need to know when to rotate and give those guys a rest, otherwise you get to the business end of the season and those guys are shot pieces and unable to perform anywhere near their potential.

It is a hard balancing act for a coach and I don't like to criticise them too much in hindsight. Also you know what rugby players are like for putting their hand up to play when they really shouldn't and that makes it even harder to make these decisions. But it's a squad game and you need to use it.
48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote:Just wondering what people's thoughts are regards players playing through injury and fatigue? We've seen too often players having to be jabbed up to play and this has a direct impact on player welfare but secondary it has an effect on performance of that player and the team overall. It also has a bearing on younger player development.

A more pro active stance regards injuries and fatigue with better squad rotation and introducing a junior/squad player quicker instead of jabbing up a senior player to continue to play should benefit not just the players but the team results wise. Players whom are severely fatigued or have an injury and being asked to play are more likely to not perform as well as the squad player, doing fewer minutes as well, but also the increased likelihood to either worsen the current injury and be out for longer or when fatigued, more likely to get an injury to start with.

It's all too easy to put your 'best' team out week in week out and even when you don't have many games missed by the 1st XVII as we saw in 2016, this does have a huge impact on how players perform in the final 1/4 of the season as well as long term injuries that might impact far more significantly than if they were withdrawn earlier from playing. it also means junior squad players thrown in at the pointy end of the season have less experience to deal with those all so important games and the pressure that comes with them.
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It's not just our club, it's everywhere, even in the amateur ranks players are taking painkillers to get onto the pitch/get through a game and the longer term post career impact on the body is well know (See Rob Parkers video from a few years ago that featured on the One Show https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dqkvm ) However I truly believe that addressing injuries and fatigue works better overall and longer term regards results, the argument that we would lose more games with squad players in, we have a weaker starting 13 or weaker bench is valid but we can't know how the injured/fatigued senior player is going to perform in any case never mind how they perform over a season with a constant 'niggling' injury or worse.

One of the best examples I saw but seemingly forced onto Radford with him stating we had a 'million pounds worth of players in the stand' was when we played Warrington on an Easter Monday. Warrington went into the game with the 'best' 17 they could muster, most of whom had played on the good Friday, and we had a team full of kids, Warrington were flying high and yet with most the senior squad out, we won.

Also like to see squad players brought into their correct positions instead of moving other senior players around to put a square peg into a round hole.


Rugby league is a brutal game and it's just inevitable that players will sometimes have to play through a little niggle or a bit of fatigue. But I agree with you, flogging players until they break just doesn't do anyone any good. You carry a 30 man squad for a reason, and whilst you want to have your best players playing as much as possible, you need to know when to rotate and give those guys a rest, otherwise you get to the business end of the season and those guys are shot pieces and unable to perform anywhere near their potential.

It is a hard balancing act for a coach and I don't like to criticise them too much in hindsight. Also you know what rugby players are like for putting their hand up to play when they really shouldn't and that makes it even harder to make these decisions. But it's a squad game and you need to use it.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:41 pm 
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Good job the season is delayed because the KCOM's pitch is in a right state. They are saying its because there wasn't a proper football off season, but with them lot in charge you don't know if the budget has been cut...

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:02 pm 
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Carlos and Josh working on the right side combinations. Sounds like Reynolds is making a positive impact on the group, looked to be enjoying the snow last night :D
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ds-4968739
Carlos and Josh working on the right side combinations. Sounds like Reynolds is making a positive impact on the group, looked to be enjoying the snow last night :D

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:15 pm 
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UllFC wrote:Good job the season is delayed because the KCOM's pitch is in a right state. They are saying its because there wasn't a proper football off season, but with them lot in charge you don't know if the budget has been cut...

But there's the continual bashing regards the rugby ripping up the pitch, and surely if there's effort to cover the pitch when there's predicted heavy rainfall as well as the undersoil heating (that can aid drying it out) it comes across as excuses for not doing the basics in terms of maintaining the ground.

They restarted in 19th Sept 2 months after season end with another 3 months of no play from march to late June, plenty more time to do the work they needed to, since September they've played 19 home games to 2nd Feb, with 10 in the last 11 weeks/79 days
We played one game at home 18th October.
The pitch is in a state because of mismanagement.

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