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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:56 am 
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Rocknrolla69er wrote:Sorry I stopped reading at disgraceful and disrespectful hahahaha Jesus wept are you 6?

it's you who are clearly unable or unwilling to enter into a proper conversation, you stopped reading because you flog a player who has done very well for us and I disagreed, thought you were being very disrespectful and your response is that., that really is special, it really clarifies your level.
Grow up and debate like an adult or is playground slanging all you can do?


Just to add my own thoughts regarding Shaul & Connor both have pro's and con's to their game. Personally for me I think the Connor has the edge over Shaul at FB currently. Considering Connor was thrown in at FB due to the unfotrunate injury to Shaul I thought he showed up well in that role as was an effective pivot.

Yes Shaul has pace and has indeed used that well in his game but where he has been lacking for a while is his link up/support play as a FB. Also when he did join in the attacking line the play more often than not ended with himl as he took the wrong option or ran down a dead end. He was very good under high balls but over the past season or two he has certainly not been as secure, quite often hesitant and letting the ball bounce. I believe there is a good full back in there and he has been let down by the Coaching team I would argue that a degree of apathy crept in with his closeness to Radford playing a part in performance levels (like Houghton). Under Hodgson a lot of Shauls minus points should improve quite significantly as we saw earlier when BH spent some time with Shaul previously.

Connor for me is a player that is just a natural and in some ways quite similar to Whiting in that he reads the game so well and has a real talent just lacks a little bit of pace and his temperament & desire to do well gets the better of him.
He is secure under high balls has a great leap and the ability to link up play. He's a player than when used effectively can be unplayable and I believe thats what BH has seen in Connor. Again like Shaul he will only improve under the guidance of BH.
In terms of lack of pace for a full back you only have to take a look back to Paul Wellens who I wouldnt say was a speedster at all in the FB role but he was a player that knew the role well and could read the game and see situations developing so was able to get in the right place at the right time.

Right now for me Connor has the edge over Shaul because of his all round game in the FB role and he adds that extra dimension to the attacking play which is what Shaul needs to work on.






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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:21 am 
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Chris71 wrote:Just to add my own thoughts regarding Shaul & Connor both have pro's and con's to their game. Personally for me I think the Connor has the edge over Shaul at FB currently. Considering Connor was thrown in at FB due to the unfotrunate injury to Shaul I thought he showed up well in that role as was an effective pivot.

Yes Shaul has pace and has indeed used that well in his game but where he has been lacking for a while is his link up/support play as a FB. Also when he did join in the attacking line the play more often than not ended with himl as he took the wrong option or ran down a dead end. He was very good under high balls but over the past season or two he has certainly not been as secure, quite often hesitant and letting the ball bounce. I believe there is a good full back in there and he has been let down by the Coaching team I would argue that a degree of apathy crept in with his closeness to Radford playing a part in performance levels (like Houghton). Under Hodgson a lot of Shauls minus points should improve quite significantly as we saw earlier when BH spent some time with Shaul previously.

Connor for me is a player that is just a natural and in some ways quite similar to Whiting in that he reads the game so well and has a real talent just lacks a little bit of pace and his temperament & desire to do well gets the better of him.
He is secure under high balls has a great leap and the ability to link up play. He's a player than when used effectively can be unplayable and I believe thats what BH has seen in Connor. Again like Shaul he will only improve under the guidance of BH.
In terms of lack of pace for a full back you only have to take a look back to Paul Wellens who I wouldnt say was a speedster at all in the FB role but he was a player that knew the role well and could read the game and see situations developing so was able to get in the right place at the right time.

Right now for me Connor has the edge over Shaul because of his all round game in the FB role and he adds that extra dimension to the attacking play which is what Shaul needs to work on.


A well constructed accurate and grown up assessment. Thankfully.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:55 pm 
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Chris71 wrote:Just to add my own thoughts regarding Shaul & Connor both have pro's and con's to their game. Personally for me I think the Connor has the edge over Shaul at FB currently. Considering Connor was thrown in at FB due to the unfotrunate injury to Shaul I thought he showed up well in that role as was an effective pivot.

Yes Shaul has pace and has indeed used that well in his game but where he has been lacking for a while is his link up/support play as a FB. Also when he did join in the attacking line the play more often than not ended with himl as he took the wrong option or ran down a dead end. He was very good under high balls but over the past season or two he has certainly not been as secure, quite often hesitant and letting the ball bounce. I believe there is a good full back in there and he has been let down by the Coaching team I would argue that a degree of apathy crept in with his closeness to Radford playing a part in performance levels (like Houghton). Under Hodgson a lot of Shauls minus points should improve quite significantly as we saw earlier when BH spent some time with Shaul previously.

Connor for me is a player that is just a natural and in some ways quite similar to Whiting in that he reads the game so well and has a real talent just lacks a little bit of pace and his temperament & desire to do well gets the better of him.
He is secure under high balls has a great leap and the ability to link up play. He's a player than when used effectively can be unplayable and I believe thats what BH has seen in Connor. Again like Shaul he will only improve under the guidance of BH.
In terms of lack of pace for a full back you only have to take a look back to Paul Wellens who I wouldnt say was a speedster at all in the FB role but he was a player that knew the role well and could read the game and see situations developing so was able to get in the right place at the right time.

Right now for me Connor has the edge over Shaul because of his all round game in the FB role and he adds that extra dimension to the attacking play which is what Shaul needs to work on.


Great summary without any dramatics needed.

Pretty much my thoughts. Really looking forward to Connor at fullback with Hodgson as coach.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:52 pm 
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Haha was feeling a bit depressed until reading the last couple of pages, made me laugh, Jesus some people can rant! Personally think we are in a good position, unfortunate for shaul to miss a chunk of the season, but really is a great opportunity to have a look at Connor at 1, over a decent period. Maybe have the discussion then, who’s the better fullback, Connor looks very promising, but we’ve seen that before. And shaul as always been a dangerous consistent fullback, I’m excited to see who eventually ends the season at fb! Both can be quality players

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:58 pm 
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MorningGlory23 wrote:Haha was feeling a bit depressed until reading the last couple of pages, made me laugh, Jesus some people can rant! Personally think we are in a good position, unfortunate for shaul to miss a chunk of the season, but really is a great opportunity to have a look at Connor at 1, over a decent period. Maybe have the discussion then, who’s the better fullback, Connor looks very promising, but we’ve seen that before. And shaul as always been a dangerous consistent fullback, I’m excited to see who eventually ends the season at fb! Both can be quality players


I still say Briscoe. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:41 am 
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Briscoe was amazing used to break his nose every game stopping try's lol

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:32 am 
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Bombed Out wrote:I still say Briscoe. :lol:
I still say Motu Tony.

Briscoe v Tony was the original forum splitter :lol:






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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:35 pm 
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The Hollywood Frasier wrote:I still say Motu Tony.

Briscoe v Tony was the original forum splitter :lol:

Wasn't everything Blackloks fault?

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Season
PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:01 am 
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The Hollywood Frasier wrote:I still say Motu Tony.

Briscoe v Tony was the original forum splitter :lol:

Which was insane as Briscoe was significantly better than Tony in that position though MT was more flexible regards differing positions.

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Jake Connor on the training pitch today. Good to see.

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