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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:33 pm 
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atomic wrote:Have you had symptoms? What makes you different from the people you know to have had it? Are you Asymptomatic?

Do you you know?

No you don’t.. What you know is irrelevant as is with all of us.


What are you talking about?

I have had it, tested positive, had a first vaccine .

Been working with the most vulnerable people for the last year.

But yeah,we're all liars, I haven't seen the people I work for or colleagues die.






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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:46 am 
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atomic wrote:Have you had symptoms? What makes you different from the people you know to have had it? Are you Asymptomatic?

Do you you know?

No you don’t.. What you know is irrelevant as is with all of us.


I have no idea what you mean by this reply
I don't know what your asking

But just for clarity, I know people who have died from this, people of my age (48) and just slightly older with no underlying health issues and who were very healthy until this struck. It has a horrible disease that can affect anyone.
I don't know if I've had it
But I have PAID twice to have tests, the last one about 6 weeks ago for travel purposes.
Rules changed whilst I was abroad, did I complain when I got back, no, I isolated for 10 days.
My sons friend got it recently, guess what, my son who has been in contact with him 8 days ago got no yest and trace after call, but he isolated from the point of finding out about it, rang the test centre who told him Not to go for a test.

My point is/was, there were experts on here that told us to "Just get in with things". "Life has to carry on," "the elderly just want to get on with things and enjoy what time they have left", "send kids, colleges etc back to to school" and yet when the inevitable happened have gone missing after telling everyone like me that out stories were just "Anecdotal", because it didn't fit their argument.
There's another poster on here who says we can't really keep up testing 50,000 a day, with 250,000 test and trace requirements off the back of it.
Boris told is in April/May wed soon be doing 100,000 tests a day, with a world class test and trace straight after it, we know he was lying, so the current numbers are not an excuse.
Its been a poop show from day 1 and handled terribly (of course we were always going to be exposed, but it didn't need to have been this bad). Cue the you know whos coming up with all kinds of rubbish to distract away from this (that bloody Jeremy Corbyn!). Bit like Brexit really.

Anyway Atomic
Just let me know a little bit better what you meant by your reply
I'll do my best to answer if you put a coherent reply together.






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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:36 am 
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I keep reading about the creation of mass testing centres but none in West, South Yorkshire and Humberside which are quite highly populated areas.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:10 am 
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:I keep reading about the creation of mass testing centres but none in West, South Yorkshire and Humberside which are quite highly populated areas.


There’s one at the rugby club at the back of me (Wigan area) - steady stream of elderly going through, from what I can see appears quite well organised - steady stream but no real queues.

Strange if similar haven’t been set up in the areas you mention above






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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:57 am 
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:I keep reading about the creation of mass testing centres but none in West, South Yorkshire and Humberside which are quite highly populated areas.


They are creating mass vaccination centres - the North East and Yorkshire are amongst the highest for giving the first vaccination so less of a worry for us.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:07 pm 
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Jukesays wrote:I have no idea what you mean by this reply
I don't know what your asking

But just for clarity, I know people who have died from this, people of my age (48) and just slightly older with no underlying health issues and who were very healthy until this struck. It has a horrible disease that can affect anyone.
I don't know if I've had it
But I have PAID twice to have tests, the last one about 6 weeks ago for travel purposes.
Rules changed whilst I was abroad, did I complain when I got back, no, I isolated for 10 days.
My sons friend got it recently, guess what, my son who has been in contact with him 8 days ago got no yest and trace after call, but he isolated from the point of finding out about it, rang the test centre who told him Not to go for a test.

My point is/was, there were experts on here that told us to "Just get in with things". "Life has to carry on," "the elderly just want to get on with things and enjoy what time they have left", "send kids, colleges etc back to to school" and yet when the inevitable happened have gone missing after telling everyone like me that out stories were just "Anecdotal", because it didn't fit their argument.
There's another poster on here who says we can't really keep up testing 50,000 a day, with 250,000 test and trace requirements off the back of it.
Boris told is in April/May wed soon be doing 100,000 tests a day, with a world class test and trace straight after it, we know he was lying, so the current numbers are not an excuse.
Its been a poop show from day 1 and handled terribly (of course we were always going to be exposed, but it didn't need to have been this bad). Cue the you know whos coming up with all kinds of rubbish to distract away from this (that bloody Jeremy Corbyn!). Bit like Brexit really.

Anyway Atomic
Just let me know a little bit better what you meant by your reply
I'll do my best to answer if you put a coherent reply together.


There will always be people who die unexpectedly of illnesses they shouldn't die of - physiology. The vast majority of those who have died of COVID are 80+ and a % would have died of something.

Perhaps rather than lock everyone down we should have simply shielded these people and everyone else continue as normal?

We are currently testing c2.5m people a week c350k a day. Even Germany who were light years ahead of us admitted their track and trace couldn't cope once the number increased significantly.

I would agree the government's handling of this has been poor but if we had locked down earlier would that have been the correct strategy? PPE when you look into it no hospital actually ran out - so scaremongery.

Is the cure more harmful than the illness?

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:10 pm 
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Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:There will always be people who die unexpectedly of illnesses they shouldn't die of - physiology. The vast majority of those who have died of COVID are 80+ and a % would have died of something.

Perhaps rather than lock everyone down we should have simply shielded these people and everyone else continue as normal?

We are currently testing c2.5m people a week c350k a day. Even Germany who were light years ahead of us admitted their track and trace couldn't cope once the number increased significantly.

I would agree the government's handling of this has been poor but if we had locked down earlier would that have been the correct strategy? PPE when you look into it no hospital actually ran out - so scaremongery.

Is the cure more harmful than the illness?

Demonstrably proven to be so.
Debt that can never be repaid back = less money for health and social care, national infrastructure
Crashed economy with a million extra out of work

Suicides/suicide attempts increase 69% (using London ambulance service numbers) this equates to an additional 36,000 over the country, lost life years from this outweigh over those that have died with a positive test alone. Children killing themselves because they can't cope with the reaction/actions by government, actions by teachers, police and others backing the government strategy! Mental health an all time low across all age groups, this on its own has a bigger impact on physical health and well being according to studies, elderly simply giving up on life because of the actions by government, I've witnessed this first hand :twisted:

Increased deaths from cancer due to removed treatments and non diagnosis, some research suggests up to 60,000 more deaths from first lockdown to 12 months post that, and more deaths because treatment, ops and diagnosis will continue to be removed/reduced for years to come.

Deaths of the vulnerable in care homes being prematurely discharged from hospital, utterly unfit to be discharged, these people did not die FROM covid but with a positive test, dying from their underlying health conditions, they died because there was no health or social care packages in place, a significant portion of them not being able to eat properly/feed themselves (I know this from my own work in social care). This is how you create a spike in deaths along with forced/coerced DNR in tens of thousands of care homes!

Millions of vulnerable people left isolated, fearful such that if they had medical problems there was no-one there for them, heart attack and stroke sufferers simply dying with no help coming or too late because of fear of calling for ambulance, reduced ambulance servies, reduced hospital services and beds (at least 8,000 taken out of hospitals), relatives or friends no longer visiting/looking out for because being told to stay away, all things that increase death and suffering!

Tell people to stay indoors, tell them Vitamin D has no impact on health (Matt Hancock's lies regards this are criminal just on their own), so the vulnerable already deficit of Vit D from the winter of 2019/20 get naff all Vit D throughout the summer, come autumn/winter people immune compromised so more people are going to die.

Remove human rights left right and centre, utilise police to remove innate rights, to bully, attack and assault people for breaking no laws, meanwhile criminals including drivers get away quite literally all and sundry. Drug dealers must be laughing their titties off with lack of plod because they are all bust acting like the East German stasi!
Billions piddled away on a track and trace system that could never possibly work, billions piddled away on ventilators that were never ever needed and could not possibly have been needed.

Billions wasted on pointless 'PPE' that even the Health and safety Executive state is not and cannot be considered PPE except in medical situations (we have lots of research that proves even in theatre face coverings/masks cause worse outcomes), that's before you get to the pollution all these garments cause when disposed.
millions/billions wasted on 'Nightingale' hospitals that never got used because hospitals were never overstretched more than any other winter periods. Right now 80% of major hospital trusts have spare ICU beds.

Billions piddled away on medical treatments being falsely described as a 'miracle' that has had no proper testing, has no true efficacy, cannot prevent infection or death, MIGHT reduce symptoms in the fit and healthy but as admitted by PHE they have no idea what it will do. We already know that people supposedly whom have contracted covid have a higher protection/immunity than the poison they are forcing/coercing people to take!

Oh and if you don't take this poison that has already killed thousands (government can't have it both ways, deaths post covid 'vaccine' are vaccine deaths right, because same thing is being applied to post covid positive deceased been counted as a covid death xx days post test? :roll:) and done massive harm to others in all age groups just in the short term.
So you don't get to be part of society, we've seen the 'vaccination' passports been touted by government, Germany and Australia are pretty much already down this route, so needing a 'passport' for work, travel, attending sporting occasions, going into shops, hospitals and so on, completely breaking human rights all over the shop!

Elite's profiting from the 'pandemic' by trillions of dollars whilst another 130 million people go into food poverty at least, small businesses destroyed, tracking of all people via CCTV 24/7 (this already happens in Chinese cities), removal of cash is just around the corner (China is already down this route massively)
The list is endless as to why the reaction, there is no 'cure', is worse for all of us. But too many are in cognitive dissonance, attacking those fighting not just for themselves but for the attackers freedoms too, these people simply begging for restrictions that have zero impact on viruses but cause more deaths and untold harm and misery to billions of people!

But getting a hard on to be next in the queue for the poison seems to be de rigueur here and elsewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:28 pm 
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No way I’m putting that 4hit vaccine in my veins after 10 days of testing.

I will take my chances, cheers

What an opportunity to go visit your precious club for the first time now st Helens has been set up for vaccinations :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:34 pm 
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Wow. Just popped in to see how the discussion was going. Some great discussion but that last post from 48756c6c20 524c4643 is a doozy.
Pretty much gets all the fake news and conspiracies on the go into one post.






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 Post subject: Re: Vaccine Guinea Pig
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:41 am 
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PopTart wrote:Wow. Just popped in to see how the discussion was going. Some great discussion but that last post from 48756c6c20 524c4643 is a doozy.
Pretty much gets all the fake news and conspiracies on the go into one post.


I think he's done a sweep of the David Icke forums. I'm just surprised he hasn't mentioned 'the great reset'.






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