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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:00 pm 
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pmarrow wrote:I bet your a delight to have round for dinner.

I'm very entertaining, this is nothing to do with a social gathering, it's work related so I wouldn't be talking shop at the dinner table.
Rugby in this setting is work and trying to identify where players are failing is what a coach should do right? We as fans talk over what we've done well and what we haven't as a team/individually, that happens all the time, I bet you've said plenty to disseminate how the team have performed but that has little if anything to do with your meal at home with friends in terms of how you talk :roll: .

People are saying great effort, they mean we physically got around the pitch, made tackles and tried, but that effort was actually poor in the context of what the effort is supposed to produce, [physical effort again as others have said should be expected every single time they step onto the field of play, or do you not agree with that?
Patting players on the back for 'effort' is just another sign of the mindset, it's not good enough when you have weak application of the effort that does not get you a positive result, I personally thought we were poor for most of the game but that was as much about our failings as Wigan's ability to do what we should have been doing.

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
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Dave K. wrote:Plenty of effort, but Wigan too good.

Hastings, French and Smith vs our pivots is a no brainers.

We need a halfback.

I'd also still like a new coach, one who can coach more than power and one who doesn't use their backs as forwards on every set. Where we arent using a prop to drive it in on the 4th tackle 20 meters from the opposite line, with Last I think we we just be another Radford team.



I doubt Last will be our coach next season as i think Pearson has already made up his mind
Half back with pace has to be a priority.
Speed of thought helps but we are really lacking pace in the backs for next season especially as it looks like we will continue with Connor at full back

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:01 pm 
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NickyKiss wrote:Class touch from you guys at the end with the guard of honour for Lockers. I thought it was a 50/50 game, if not a 60/40 game in your favour until the penalty against Griffin. It was ridiculous from him. I can understand frustration from Last but it being a play off doesn’t matter. It was hardly a ‘rub’ as I’ve seen mentioned elsewhere as well. I felt we were nervous until that point and it flipped the momentum.

I hope Last gets the job next season. He seems a shrewd coach and a good bloke. He’s needed time this season but it’s got better as time has gone by and with some backing in signing a new halfback and a forward or two, I think he can kick you on.


Cheers Nicky, good luck in the final :D

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:02 pm 
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pmarrow wrote:And they wonder why Watson didn't come, why would any sane coach leave a comfortable position to come to this pressure filled role where one week your crap the next you are god.

Because he wants a challenge, did you never ever leave a comfortable job for something that you thought was a step up/challenge in your life? Isn't that what many people in life do, leave a comfortable setting so they can better themselves and progress not stagnate?

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:03 pm 
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Tough night against a very good wigan side, shame that the usual crowd have reverted to type after a few weeks of relative calm, and, of course, bumpy has to have his say.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?


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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
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Ultimately we haven't been consistently good enough all season. For every performance like last week or at Headingley in Round1 there has been a Warrington at home or Salford straight after lockdown. Overall 6th place felt about right to me and a playoff win a bonus. A few have been getting a bit carried away with the 'win it at home dream.

Some encouraging signs these last few weeks but still a few players who aren't top4 material. We need to replace Kelly, Ratu find another big prop and sort out the coaching situation. Busy winter ahead with all the uncertainties that Covid still brings.

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WIZEB wrote:Don't get him started on road safety!

ZZZZZZZZZZZ, nothing to contribute to the thread as usual, nothing changes with you does it. WIZEB out :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:10 pm 
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48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote:I'm very entertaining, this is nothing to do with a social gathering, it's work related so I wouldn't be talking shop at the dinner table.
Rugby in this setting is work and trying to identify where players are failing is what a coach should do right? We as fans talk over what we've done well and what we haven't as a team/individually, that happens all the time, I bet you've said plenty to disseminate how the team have performed but that has little if anything to do with your meal at home with friends in terms of how you talk :roll: .

People are saying great effort, they mean we physically got around the pitch, made tackles and tried, but that effort was actually poor in the context of what the effort is supposed to produce, [physical effort again as others have said should be expected every single time they step onto the field of play, or do you not agree with that?
Patting players on the back for 'effort' is just another sign of the mindset, it's not good enough when you have weak application of the effort that does not get you a positive result, I personally thought we were poor for most of the game but that was as much about our failings as Wigan's ability to do what we should have been doing.


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NickyKiss wrote:Class touch from you guys at the end with the guard of honour for Lockers. I thought it was a 50/50 game, if not a 60/40 game in your favour until the penalty against Griffin. It was ridiculous from him. I can understand frustration from Last but it being a play off doesn’t matter. It was hardly a ‘rub’ as I’ve seen mentioned elsewhere as well. I felt we were nervous until that point and it flipped the momentum.

I hope Last gets the job next season. He seems a shrewd coach and a good bloke. He’s needed time this season but it’s got better as time has gone by and with some backing in signing a new halfback and a forward or two, I think he can kick you on.

I agree it was daft from Griffin but your patience, defence and execution were a playoff lesson - over the 80 minutes you dominated every aspect of the game. Top performance from the benchmark club. :BOW:

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 Post subject: Re: Grand Final Eliminator v Wigan
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48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote:Because he wants a challenge, did you never ever leave a comfortable job for something that you thought was a step up/challenge in your life? Isn't that what many people in life do, leave a comfortable setting so they can better themselves and progress not stagnate?


Its not a challenge here though is it ? You win 1 your god and lose 1 and you need to be sacked.






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