Joined: May 02 2010 Posts: 1467 Location: Playing League on The Close
Dave K. wrote:For me their replacemnet has to come from London, Leigh or York, think they are the best placed sides to did it a go next year, I would have done for Toulose but with covid, it's hard enough with one French team.
I think there has to be no relegation next year.
For me, I’d go with Toulouse.
We’ve been trying to do London for 40 years. From a fan perspective other than the initial Fulham years, the fan base didn’t develop. Obviously not helped by the nomadic existence from ground to ground.
With respect, York wouldn’t bring too much as they have a low fan base with limited growth potential.
Leigh are within an established heartland, but unless they it’s via winning the Championship, do we want to promote another club within a drop kick away from St Helens, Warrington, Salford and Wigan? The same relates to Featherstone, with Cas, Wakefield and Leeds in close proximity.
With regards Covid, yes it may still impact the first part of next season, but most clubs have been affected (us, Rovers, and Cas have all had to postpone matches), but I wouldn’t exclude Toulose because of this. For those that haven’t seen it, check out the Toulouse video, their infrastructure is a match for any SL club, it would also increase interest for the competition in France with an instant rivalry with Cats.
As a one off, I’d postpone relegation for 2021 and give all clubs the chance to stabslise as we hopefully get through Covid, assuming a vaccine becomes available next year. Championship clubs would have promotion to join SL in 2022.
Some other great points made above re. Missed RFL opportunities/decisions, but I think that needs to be a separate strategic debate for the longer term future of the game.
We’ve been trying to do London for 40 years. From a fan perspective other than the initial Fulham years, the fan base didn’t develop. Obviously not helped by the nomadic existence from ground to ground.
With respect, York wouldn’t bring too much as they have a low fan base with limited growth potential.
Leigh are within an established heartland, but unless they it’s via winning the Championship, do we want to promote another club within a drop kick away from St Helens, Warrington, Salford and Wigan? The same relates to Featherstone, with Cas, Wakefield and Leeds in close proximity.
With regards Covid, yes it may still impact the first part of next season, but most clubs have been affected (us, Rovers, and Cas have all had to postpone matches), but I wouldn’t exclude Toulose because of this. For those that haven’t seen it, check out the Toulouse video, their infrastructure is a match for any SL club, it would also increase interest for the competition in France with an instant rivalry with Cats.
As a one off, I’d postpone relegation for 2021 and give all clubs the chance to stabslise as we hopefully get through Covid, assuming a vaccine becomes available next year. Championship clubs would have promotion to join SL in 2022.
Some other great points made above re. Missed RFL opportunities/decisions, but I think that needs to be a separate strategic debate for the longer term future of the game.
I agree with every point you have made it's got to be Toulouse and it also gives the competition credibility having another French team.
The journalist Gareth Walker has stated that he believes the promoted club are likely to receive only 1 million from the central funding pot rather than the estimated 1.8 million existing SL clubs receive. Obviously this would be a massive disadvantaged added to the fact they will have to recruit basically a new squad in a short space of time to be competitive. That seems totally unfair. They want an extra club to make up the numbers but know full well they'll be whipping boys. It this is true they should have gone with a 11 team league.
Joined: May 02 2010 Posts: 1467 Location: Playing League on The Close
Marcus's Bicycle wrote:I agree with every point you have made it's got to be Toulouse and it also gives the competition credibility having another French team.
The journalist Gareth Walker has stated that he believes the promoted club are likely to receive only 1 million from the central funding pot rather than the estimated 1.8 million existing SL clubs receive. Obviously this would be a massive disadvantaged added to the fact they will have to recruit basically a new squad in a short space of time to be competitive. That seems totally unfair. They want an extra club to make up the numbers but know full well they'll be whipping boys. It this is true they should have gone with a 11 team league.
Sounds unfair, but could be mitigated if there is no relegation next season and allows the 12th team a little more stability.
Joined: Aug 01 2005 Posts: 5908 Location: Definately not in the Cuddle Crew
Another vote for Toulouse here - win win as great for the french game, great for European Super League, great for fans (once Covid is over)
And sounds like Toulouse are recruiting for Super League as theyve just signed Joseph Paolo and Dom Peyroux from Saints as well as Eloi Pelissier, Ben Reynolds and Mitch Garbutt
The Toronto thing was never going to work for me. If the want to do RL over there, they need to create their own competition.
In all honesty, I dont like catalan being in the league either.
Our sport isn't a rich sport, so we need to do whatever we can to build the clubs we have, get more money, grassroots, academy, fans etc
Who ever comes into the SL needs to be able to spend the cap or at least close.to it, be sustainable and have a good fan base. Or at the very least, be able to bring fans in.
Several clubs in SL take a good amount of fans home.and away, teams like catalandont. So what do they offer.
Joined: May 12 2011 Posts: 3338 Location: West Hull
This is quickly turning into a farce. Their replacement should have been pencilled in before the vote took place, and announced immediately for a full pre-season and fair shot at recruitment. Professional game run by amateurs.
All men are created equal, some work harder in preseason. -Emmitt Smith
Offy1865 wrote:The Toronto thing was never going to work for me. If the want to do RL over there, they need to create their own competition.
In all honesty, I dont like catalan being in the league either.
Our sport isn't a rich sport, so we need to do whatever we can to build the clubs we have, get more money, grassroots, academy, fans etc
Who ever comes into the SL needs to be able to spend the cap or at least close.to it, be sustainable and have a good fan base. Or at the very least, be able to bring fans in.
Several clubs in SL take a good amount of fans home.and away, teams like catalandont. So what do they offer.
the cal train wrote:This is quickly turning into a farce. Their replacement should have been pencilled in before the vote took place, and announced immediately for a full pre-season and fair shot at recruitment. Professional game run by amateurs.
So, having a replacement ready before Toronto's application was rejected, before SL voted for 12 teams, before SL revised the playoffs? Call that professional? Toronto's lawyers would have had a field day.
This is what was said 4 days ago....
Quote:The Betfred Super League Board has voted unanimously in favour of admitting a 12th team to the competition in 2021. The Board also voted in favour of a 27-Round Regular Season, including Dacia Magic Weekend. The process for including the 12th team will begin promptly, and the decision will be made by a committee headed by an independent chairman, who will be identified shortly. Further details on the criteria that applicant clubs will have to meet will be discussed and released at an appropriate time. Super League Executive Chairman Robert Elstone said: “Our clubs unanimously voted for a 12-team Super League in 2021. The process of choosing that twelfth team will start as soon as possible. “We are committed to ensuring that the process is independent and impartial, and stands up to scrutiny, and accordingly, ensuring the committee is properly constituted and clearly mandated is our first priority.”
And I'd imagine there are more players on the open market than ever before.
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
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