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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:31 am 
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Thirty-eight missed tackles yesterday
Fonua 5 (also three errors)
Kelly 4
Sneyd 4
Houghton 4 (63 completed)
Sao 4

Hats off to Carlos though
Metres 181
Carries 14
Tackles busts 5
Clean breaks 2
Runs from dummy half 2
Try assist 1
Tackles 11 (just one missed)

Pretty good in a team that was totally outplayed.

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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:32 am 
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Only just had chance to watch it, we stunk the place out.
No idea, no pride in the jersey.
Last has had enough time to change things even if by a small amount, but he hasn't, enough time to motivate the players to get back to match mentality but that hasn't happened.
IMO 6 seasons of Radford drummed into him as an assistant was never going to disappear, honestly I don't blame Last, he's never been head coach material or has been happy to just be an assistant which indicates same thing, he's a stop gap in order to keep players going through the training, he has to say the right things even if he doesn't have the ability to actually change/motivate players to be better. I never had any illusions that things would change but this performance was just as pathetic as other Radford coached wallopings. Pearson should have used the postponement of the season to rethink and simply get shot of Last at the same time

If we continue to play like we did yesterday or don't improve much/get results then Pearson is in an even worse position than ever before. Lots of players on big contracts not performing as we expect, little desire from too many players, a youngster pool that doesn't seem to be firing on all cylinders, and honestly hasn't for some while.
This means fans less likely to want to spend money on a membership (which could also be for other non playing reasons), less value for sponsors going forward so that might well also be affected.

As others have said, we need a clear out, a coach with firm ideas that doesn't involve bish bang wallop as our primary mode of winning games, from that not having a plan B is something that is the wrong way of thinking. An effective coach understands that you exploit all aspects of your squad that means you're far more rounded in terms of attack and defence.
Basically someone who understands the value of basic rugby league football skills both in attack and defence, someone who can actually manage players as a manager, isn't afraid to make the tough decisions without needing to use blunt force as the only way to attempt to modify things

I don't know how much Pearson has got left in him to want to invest money in the club, so much good work has been undone and squandered, Pearson, our club is IMO behind where we were when Gentle took over on the basis of what I watched and what went before

Tough times for fans

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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:47 am 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Thirty-eight missed tackles yesterday
Fonua 5 (also three errors)
Kelly 4
Sneyd 4
Houghton 4 (63 completed)
Sao 4

Hats off to Carlos though
Metres 181
Carries 14
Tackles busts 5
Clean breaks 2
Runs from dummy half 2
Try assist 1
Tackles 11 (just one missed)

Pretty good in a team that was totally outplayed.

That's very impressive from Carlos, he's performed very consistently and rarely has an off day, he's 7th in the Tackle bust count and Griffin is 2nd.

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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:56 am 
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Just thankful we weren't playing St Helens yesterday. Salford were good but the thought of Grace and Makinson up against our wingers... Saints could easily have put 70 or 80 on us.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:09 pm 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Just thankful we weren't playing St Helens yesterday. Salford were good but the thought of Grace and Makinson up against our wingers... Saints could easily have put 70 or 80 on us.

We tend to turn up against better opposition though, it's running out expecting to win that ruins us.






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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:22 pm 
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No disciplinary issues for us this week thankfully, just Andre Savelio cautioned for raising a knee.

Peter Mata’utia has been given a two match penalty notice for a dangerous lift and will miss both games against us, Super League next week and the Cup the week after.

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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:41 pm 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Just thankful we weren't playing St Helens yesterday. Salford were good but the thought of Grace and Makinson up against our wingers... Saints could easily have put 70 or 80 on us.


What about the second half?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:41 pm 
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Ellam wrote:Fonau needs to be on the next plane home he;s had our pants down, we didn't need him back and hes been shocking since he came back into the team.


I think we'd get at least some value out of the rest of his contract if he was used as an impact player from the bench - and NOT on the wing.

The fact he was let-go after a year back in Australia says it all to me.






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 Post subject: Re: Salford v Hull 9th August Headlngley
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:56 pm 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Just thankful we weren't playing St Helens yesterday. Salford were good but the thought of Grace and Makinson up against our wingers... Saints could easily have put 70 or 80 on us.


What an odd statement...we weren't playing Saints and thus there is absolutely zero logic in the above statement.

"I am just glad that we weren't playing the Brazil 1970 World Cup team in Mexico City at football..." makes about as much sense.

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48756c6c20 524c4643 wrote:Only just had chance to watch it, we stunk the place out.
“I don't know how much Pearson has got left in him to want to invest money in the club, so much good work has been undone and squandered, Pearson, our club is IMO behind where we were when Gentle took over on the basis of what I watched and what went before“

Tough times for fans

Even tougher times for A. P.
I saw the look on his face and it was thunder. He said recently that money is tight so no coach coming in. How long he’ll want to keep bank rolling us is anyone’s guess but if he could I reckon he’d sell up.
Having said that he does seem to be a tad naive when it comes to rugby, had his small and curlies twisted well and truly by McRae then Radford, so who told him Last would be any different :CRAZY:

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