Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:09 am
ccs
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oooh Gravy! wrote:If football prove they can get fans back in safely then we'll follow, otherwise i think pass holders who would have potentially opted out of a refund would be justified in asking for money back.
..... and bankrupt the club.
Only my opinion, of course.
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:55 am
oooh Gravy!
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 24 2006 Posts: 347
ccs wrote:..... and bankrupt the club.
Only my opinion, of course.
You're slightly missing my point.
Im saying its an easy decision either way as we'll just follow football.
Many fans, including myself will be willing to write off this years season ticket for the good of the club, if there's no way of getting fans back into the stadium.
However, my point was that SOME fans may feel differently if the trials in football were successful and fans are allowed back, but the club/RL CHOOSE not to allow fans in because the 33% capacity doesnt allow the opportunity to make money.
Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:59 am
IR80
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 24 2019 Posts: 2215
oooh Gravy! wrote:You're slightly missing my point.
Im saying its an easy decision either way as we'll just follow football.
Many fans, including myself will be willing to write off this years season ticket for the good of the club, if there's no way of getting fans back into the stadium.
However, my point was that SOME fans may feel differently if the trials in football were successful and fans are allowed back, but the club/RL CHOOSE not to allow fans in because the 33% capacity doesnt allow the opportunity to make money.
I think AP would be happy to cover costs, let alone make money.
Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:11 am
oooh Gravy!
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 24 2006 Posts: 347
IR80 wrote:I think AP would be happy to cover costs, let alone make money.
Whether its making money or breaking even, a fans position on a refund could be different if it was an internal decision not to allow fans versus a blanket government decision not to allow fans.
Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:20 am
ccs
International Star
Joined: Aug 15 2011 Posts: 5318
oooh Gravy! wrote:You're slightly missing my point.
Im saying its an easy decision either way as we'll just follow football.
Many fans, including myself will be willing to write off this years season ticket for the good of the club, if there's no way of getting fans back into the stadium.
However, my point was that SOME fans may feel differently if the trials in football were successful and fans are allowed back, but the club/RL CHOOSE not to allow fans in because the 33% capacity doesnt allow the opportunity to make money.
Ok, I read it as "If football prove it's ok...." , if football proves it's not ok" a refund would be justified".
oooh Gravy! wrote:If football prove they can get fans back in safely then we'll follow, otherwise i think pass holders who would have potentially opted out of a refund would be justified in asking for money back.
A reduction in capacity might be the only way to achieve social distancing, but football starts again in September, I can't imagine the big clubs surviving if season passes are cut by 66%. Or maybe the tv deals make supporters less relevant.
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:25 am
IR80
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 24 2019 Posts: 2215
oooh Gravy! wrote:Whether its making money or breaking even, a fans position on a refund could be different if it was an internal decision not to allow fans versus a blanket government decision not to allow fans.
I agree, but we have the unfortunate spectre of the SMC to consider...
Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:27 am
IR80
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 24 2019 Posts: 2215
ccs wrote:Ok, I read it as "If football prove it's ok...." , if football proves it's not ok" a refund would be justified".
A reduction in capacity might be the only way to achieve social distancing, but football starts again in September, I can't imagine the big clubs surviving if season passes are cut by 66%. Or maybe the tv deals make supporters less relevant.
TV income dwarfs anything else in Prem Football...
Post subject: Re: home games (behind closed doors)?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:48 pm
ComeOnYouUll
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Joined: Sep 25 2003 Posts: 22283
The whole of the 2020-21 football season in England could be played in front of reduced capacities.
Quote:The whole of the next football season in England could be played in front of reduced capacities and crowd sizes could be further impacted if chanting is proven to heighten transmission risk, a senior government adviser has said.
Professor James Calder - who has chaired the cross-sport working group with government and health officials on the return to sport - has told BBC Sport that sports events are highly unlikely to have full capacity crowds this year.
"I would be very surprised if we could get full stadia back this year," he said. "Realistically I think it probably will need a vaccine and also a high take-up rate of that vaccine before we can really see full capacity stadia."
He also revealed that experiments are under way to assess whether droplet spread is increased by chanting and singing, and therefore whether there may be a greater risk of coronavirus transmission.
Professor Calder said: "We need to know, actually, does it matter if you're shouting, how far will those droplets spread?
"At a football or a rugby match, the fans are going to be shouting and chanting and singing, I hope, and we need to be sure that the people in front of them are as safe as possible.
"Now if there is no massive droplet spread, well OK, we can keep within the social distancing that we've put down for, say, the Crucible and The Oval. But if it is a problem, then we need to rethink the social distancing within the stadia, and that becomes very difficult."
The whole of the 2020-21 football season in England could be played in front of reduced capacities.
Quote:The whole of the next football season in England could be played in front of reduced capacities and crowd sizes could be further impacted if chanting is proven to heighten transmission risk, a senior government adviser has said.
Professor James Calder - who has chaired the cross-sport working group with government and health officials on the return to sport - has told BBC Sport that sports events are highly unlikely to have full capacity crowds this year.
"I would be very surprised if we could get full stadia back this year," he said. "Realistically I think it probably will need a vaccine and also a high take-up rate of that vaccine before we can really see full capacity stadia."
He also revealed that experiments are under way to assess whether droplet spread is increased by chanting and singing, and therefore whether there may be a greater risk of coronavirus transmission.
Professor Calder said: "We need to know, actually, does it matter if you're shouting, how far will those droplets spread?
"At a football or a rugby match, the fans are going to be shouting and chanting and singing, I hope, and we need to be sure that the people in front of them are as safe as possible.
"Now if there is no massive droplet spread, well OK, we can keep within the social distancing that we've put down for, say, the Crucible and The Oval. But if it is a problem, then we need to rethink the social distancing within the stadia, and that becomes very difficult."
Super League clubs offer fans without Sky Sports an opportunity to see every game in August
Quote:Season ticket holders and members will have exclusive access to live broadcasts of matches involving their teams in August after Super League came to an agreement with Sky Sports.
Supporters who do not have Sky Sports will be able to watch the behind-closed-doors games via the Our League platform, either live or on demand.
Super League clubs offer fans without Sky Sports an opportunity to see every game in August
Quote:Season ticket holders and members will have exclusive access to live broadcasts of matches involving their teams in August after Super League came to an agreement with Sky Sports.
Supporters who do not have Sky Sports will be able to watch the behind-closed-doors games via the Our League platform, either live or on demand.
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