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I really don't understand the logic about this season being a right off and not a proper season. My view is that clubs will have to overcome many different challenges and get through a lot of players to get to the end. Whoever gets to the GF will fully deserve it with the winner getting every bit the plaudits that comes with it.
DizzyHeights wrote:I wouldn’t care, I am a firm believer once we get the 1st out of the way a few will follow in the space of 5/6 years anyway. We just need to get over the line and get the first one crowd or no crowd.
Couldn't care less. A title win is a title win. You think a player will look back at the end of his career over his trophies and go, 'Aw but I won that one with no fans present'.
Big Dave 3 wrote:The Roosters are giving the Doggies a torrid time this morning. Thompson must be thinking WTF am I getting in to here. He maybe back before the end of the season!
Bulldogs are terrible. He'll kill it over there though and stand out like a sore thumb. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a stepping stone and he moves to a bigger NRL club in 1 or 2 years. Bunnies haven't replaced Sam yet and they love an English prop forward.
Lord Tony Smith wrote:Couldn't care less. A title win is a title win. You think a player will look back at the end of his career over his trophies and go, 'Aw but I won that one with no fans present'.
No, but most players will surely get more of a buzz out of winning a trophy in front of 70,000, than an empty stadium?
I mean that lap of honour will be something to behold, won't it?
And so you aim towards the sky, And you'll rise high today, Fly away, Far away, Far from pain....
Lord Tony Smith wrote:Course they will but it is what is. I'd rather win it this season in front of no fans than not win it at all this season.
Or I suppose, it won't hurt as much losing it this year, than it has before?
I guess what we are establishing, is that this year's comp is going to be a devalued one - Will be nice to win, but will have the kudos of winning the Locker Cup....
And so you aim towards the sky, And you'll rise high today, Fly away, Far away, Far from pain....
Deus Dat Incrementum wrote:With regards to Currie / McMeekan. Second rowers tend to have a couple of seasons where they are touted as the best thing since sliced bread. I don't know if that is media hype or if they hit a patch where they have a great combination with their half back/centre on a particular edge only for that combination to end. I think McMeekan played on the RIGHT edge with Ben Roberts and Jake Wester, if so both his halfback and centre have moved on. I have mentioned before that on the edge combinations and timing is crucial. Currie has had Atkins, Goodwin and now King at centre with Sandow, Brown, Patton and then at the start of this season Ratchford and then Widdop. That is a lot of changes to our left edge in the last 4 years.
I think once you start making excuses for a player like this it's a sign that they aren't really a top class player. Look at how Simon Grix had a career disrupted by injury, coming back in to the team in different positions with different combinations of players around him and he always looked good. If McMeekan is only able to be a good player if he plays on the right edge with Roberts and Webster then no point signing him unless we're going to play him there and sign those players too. I don't want him and then have to say yes he's been disappointing but he's moved to a whole new team, had to learn whole new system, excuse, excuse etc...
In Currie's case, its going to be the injury rather than having turnover in players around him. In his first few seasons he had a halfback carousel of Myler, O'Brien, Wheeler, Sandow and Patton. and he switched between second row and centre, the only difference in stability between then and the last couple of years was he had Atkins there most weeks rather than having the change of Goodwin/King. Are we really saying that the reason Currie was so good was because of the stability he had with Ryan Atkins? The big difference between before and after was he had two serious injuries. If he hadn't had those injuries, we wouldn't be having this conversation, it would have been more like "are the rumours true that he is signing for an NRL team in 2021?"
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