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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pm 
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Phuzzy wrote:Am I reading this right? Your defence of him not being a prat is "he would probably beat you up for your opinion". Really? That's where we are with this? Good to see the art of good debate isn't dead.


Does him taking you behind the bike sheds mean that??

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:42 pm 
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Egg Chasing wrote:According to a post on the VT we actively encourage it


Long may it continue, they hate us coz they aint us.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:13 am 
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How can the wording of both offences be the same the minutes of the match review panel, but one player charged with a Grade C offence and the other a Grade D ?

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:45 am 
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JonnyBroad wrote:Does him taking you behind the bike sheds mean that??

Depends which school you went to :D

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:34 am 
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Firstly I want to say I hope the injury to the KR player is not serious and he is back on the field soon.

I can’t comment on the OP one as I’ve not seen it.

I can’t stand these tackles, they make me cringe. For me Flower has got off lightly with 2 matches.

To be clear I don’t think this is not a generic issue with the 3rd man in it is how the 3rd man enters the tackle. Flower was reckless with the amount of force he used to bring the KR player down. He needs to be far more controlled than what he was.

As for the VT, just ignore the minority of idiots making generalisations bit the criticism of the individual though OTT is fair.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:48 am 
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Flower has been on the decline for a few years. Last year my only memory of him is standing up from a tackle pulling his face at the referee. I can't remember a single run or tackle that stood out. Add the cheap shots to his lack of effectiveness, that's when he's not injured, his time is definitely coming to an end, especially with the young lads chomping at the bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:53 pm 
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Let's be honest, that was a complete sh*thouse tackle.

Very dangerous and completely and utterly unnecessary.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:02 pm 
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FearTheVee wrote:Let's be honest, that was a complete sh*thouse tackle.

Very dangerous and completely and utterly unnecessary.


Aye, he screwed the pooch on that one. He should be banned for it, and he will be, along with Partington, who doesnt seem to have his own thread despite the tackle being worse.

He'll probably be in a home in his 80's and still getting abuse hurled at him over his red card at OT






Self-virtuous hypocrite

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:12 pm 
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Angelus wrote:Aye, he screwed the pooch on that one. He should be banned for it, and he will be, along with Partington, who doesnt seem to have his own thread despite the tackle being worse.

He'll probably be in a home in his 80's and still getting abuse hurled at him over his red card at OT


Haven't seen a vid of the Partington one, which might explain why it is getting less comment.

If it's demonstrably worse than Flower's it must be a pretty bad one.

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 Post subject: Re: Ben Flower
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:21 pm 
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FearTheVee wrote:Haven't seen a vid of the Partington one, which might explain why it is getting less comment.

If it's demonstrably worse than Flower's it must be a pretty bad one.


There is a video on twitter, it’s not the best quality but I’d say it’s worse than Flowers, he comes from a real distance and uses more force. At least Flower attacked the back of the knees at the bend, Oli looks like it was side on.

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