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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:22 am 
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Lang Park wrote:By daring to criticise the messiah you've sparked the inevitable calls for you to be burned at the stake but it would be interesting if people actually addressed their opinion on this point honestly.
of course he's entitled to his opinion. But we have honestly disagreed to it. Simples really






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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:32 pm 
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Lang Park wrote:By daring to criticise the messiah you've sparked the inevitable calls for you to be burned at the stake but it would be interesting if people actually addressed their opinion on this point honestly.

I'm sure if you dip into your millions and make AP an offer, he'd be very interested.

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Well be really good in those few games where we have every player fit and available






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 Post subject: Re: RADFORD OUT
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:01 am 
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So hang about, some of you think Pearson been a resounding success then?

Lets go through a list

Performances - no different from under Hetherington
Attendances - No different
Cups - 2 CCs for Pearson, 1 CC for Hetherington (+ a GF)
Playing staff - Compare the McRae (1st time round) team to our current team - is the current one better? I dont think so
Coaching team - Hetherington choices had its ups and downs - McRae was great first time round, Sharp was out of his depth (even if he was a nice bloke yawn), Agar was dire - Pearsons - Gentle - out of his depth - Radford poor to start, had a two year purple patch now been dire for three years
Background/support/trainng facilities - Hetherington badly let us down in this area, Pearsons thrown the kitchen sink at supporting the coaching team yet were no better than the grossly underfunded mismanaged Hetherington era

Pearson has put everything in place for us to be a top side yet has relied on a coach who simply hasnt got the skills to make us a top side - that is criminal and shows clear incompetence on Pearsons part

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:38 am 
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IR80 wrote:I'm sure if you dip into your millions and make AP an offer, he'd be very interested.


Instead of responding with sarcasm why don't you give your honest opinion and reasoning to the following question "Do we look any closer to being a Grand Final winning side than at the time Pearson took over?" I'd be genuinely interested to hear this.






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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:40 am 
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Sebasteeno wrote:So hang about, some of you think Pearson been a resounding success then?

Lets go through a list

Performances - no different from under Hetherington
Attendances - No different
Cups - 2 CCs for Pearson, 1 CC for Hetherington (+ a GF)
Playing staff - Compare the McRae (1st time round) team to our current team - is the current one better? I dont think so
Coaching team - Hetherington choices had its ups and downs - McRae was great first time round, Sharp was out of his depth (even if he was a nice bloke yawn), Agar was dire - Pearsons - Gentle - out of his depth - Radford poor to start, had a two year purple patch now been dire for three years
Background/support/trainng facilities - Hetherington badly let us down in this area, Pearsons thrown the kitchen sink at supporting the coaching team yet were no better than the grossly underfunded mismanaged Hetherington era

Pearson has put everything in place for us to be a top side yet has relied on a coach who simply hasnt got the skills to make us a top side - that is criminal and shows clear incompetence on Pearsons part


If Hetheringon etc stayed, we would have been close to going bust, be similar position to Bradford or Widnes.

No way would we have won two cups Pearson has been great for Hull, has he made mistakes yes and his loyalty to Radford worries me. We are in a better place on and off the pitch, ok we arent quite were we want to be, but it miles away from the Kath/Rule and Agar era.

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Lang Park wrote:Instead of responding with sarcasm why don't you give your honest opinion and reasoning to the following question "Do we look any closer to being a Grand Final winning side than at the time Pearson took over?" I'd be genuinely interested to hear this.


I'd say yes

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:55 am 
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Dave K. wrote:If Hetheringon etc stayed, we would have been close to going bust, be similar position to Bradford or Widnes.

No way would we have won two cups Pearson has been great for Hull, has he made mistakes yes and his loyalty to Radford worries me. We are in a better place on and off the pitch, ok we arent quite were we want to be, but it miles away from the Kath/Rule and Agar era.
Im not disputing they ran us into the ground but even though they did we achieved just as much under them as we have under Pearson

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:12 pm 
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Lang Park wrote:Instead of responding with sarcasm why don't you give your honest opinion and reasoning to the following question "Do we look any closer to being a Grand Final winning side than at the time Pearson took over?" I'd be genuinely interested to hear this.

What does a Grand Final winning side look like?
Salford made the final last year and could have won it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:19 pm 
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Lang Park wrote:Instead of responding with sarcasm why don't you give your honest opinion and reasoning to the following question "Do we look any closer to being a Grand Final winning side than at the time Pearson took over?" I'd be genuinely interested to hear this.


Dave K pretty much covers what I would write...

Dave K. wrote:If Hetheringon etc stayed, we would have been close to going bust, be similar position to Bradford or Widnes.

No way would we have won two cups Pearson has been great for Hull, has he made mistakes yes and his loyalty to Radford worries me. We are in a better place on and off the pitch, ok we arent quite were we want to be, but it miles away from the Kath/Rule and Agar era.



but I would also add (to underli e DaveK's point) that Pearson has invested heavily in the off the field side of the club, he has brokered a much more positive relationship with KR and many of the other SL clubs, we aren't, as a club, in the shadow of Gary and the RFL, OK the joint academy didn't work out, but at least he tried something new.

The two regimes are incomparable in my view.

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