Ruddy Duck wrote:The selection by Wane has put paid to the nonsense that they did not get on together. You only had to see how they were hugging and catting to each other at the end of the Magic game at Newcastle which was the first time that Charnley had played for Warrington against us.
Charnley was not playing well for us at the time because his head was in the clouds over a move to Rugby Union, so Wane quite rightly dropped him for Marshall.
I'm not sure what point you're making as I never intimated that they didn't get on.
As for your point regarding him not playing well for us, and as a consequence him binning him off for Manfredi (sic); I agree. Contrast that to now and he's currently not playing well either and yet he picks him in his first England 'squad'. As I said, strange decision.
Jukesays wrote:When did Wane "Bin Charnley off"? Dont remember it being that way
It was when his form dipped, I think around the time he was rumoured to be going to RU. Wane was in the press saying something along the lines of "Dom brings things that Josh doesn't" or something similar. There was quite a debate on here about it if you want to look back.
Phuzzy wrote:It was when his form dipped, I think around the time he was rumoured to be going to RU. Wane was in the press saying something along the lines of "Dom brings things that Josh doesn't" or something similar. There was quite a debate on here about it if you want to look back.
It was also claimed by some supporters "in the know" that Wane and Charnley did not get on which has now been proved to be a load of nonsense. As for Wanes comment, it was like many comments taken out of context of what he meant about the different styles and form of the two wingers.
Phuzzy wrote:I'm not sure what point you're making as I never intimated that they didn't get on.
As for your point regarding him not playing well for us, and as a consequence him binning him off for Manfredi (sic); I agree. Contrast that to now and he's currently not playing well either and yet he picks him in his first England 'squad'. As I said, strange decision.
Ruddy Duck wrote:It was also claimed by some supporters "in the know" that Wane and Charnley did not get on which has now been proved to be a load of nonsense. As for Wanes comment, it was like many comments taken out of context of what he meant about the different styles and form of the two wingers.
And I wasn't one of them so, again, I'll ask what your point is.
As for the second part, once again you're wrong. It isn't out of context. It was given as the explanation why Wane dropped him by Wane himself. Are you suggesting Wane was giving a reason why he was wrong to drop him or something? That's a very bizarre position to take but, going off your previous reasoning, I suppose that shouldn't come as any surprise.
Phuzzy wrote:And I wasn't one of them so, again, I'll ask what your point is.
As for the second part, once again you're wrong. It isn't out of context. It was given as the explanation why Wane dropped him by Wane himself. Are you suggesting Wane was giving a reason why he was wrong to drop him or something? That's a very bizarre position to take but, going off your previous reasoning, I suppose that shouldn't come as any surprise.
Exactly, it was only a comment based on the form of both players in regard to form at the time and not Wane saying that Manfredi was a better player than Charnley as some supporters took the comment.
Wane should have said nothing like Lam has done with his dropping of Burgess for Manfredi.
Ruddy Duck wrote:Exactly, it was only a comment based on the form of both players in regard to form at the time and not Wane saying that Manfredi was a better player than Charnley as some supporters took the comment.
Wane should have said nothing like Lam has done with his dropping of Burgess for Manfredi.
Whilst I agree with your comments regarding better to keep quiet about these matters I think it true that Wane did very much rate Manfredi over Charnley. You have to keep in mind that these comments were made when Charnley was at the height of his powers so he clearly saw things in Manfredi that he didn't in Josh.
I think it also worth noting that Josh isn't in good form at the moment, having only scored 2 tries in 5 games, so the comparison to then and now is marked. That's why I said it was a strange decision.
My comments shouldn't be taken as Charnley bashing by the way. Far from it. He was sensational when he first signed for Wire and I thought his omission then was also a strange decision. I guess I'm saying that there are more deserving inclusions this time around, not least Marshall.
Phuzzy wrote:Whilst I agree with your comments regarding better to keep quiet about these matters I think it true that Wane did very much rate Manfredi over Charnley. You have to keep in mind that these comments were made when Charnley was at the height of his powers so he clearly saw things in Manfredi that he didn't in Josh.
I think it also worth noting that Josh isn't in good form at the moment, having only scored 2 tries in 5 games, so the comparison to then and now is marked. That's why I said it was a strange decision.
My comments shouldn't be taken as Charnley bashing by the way. Far from it. He was sensational when he first signed for Wire and I thought his omission then was also a strange decision. I guess I'm saying that there are more deserving inclusions this time around, not least Marshall.
The whole Warrington team is not performing as expected!
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