Joined: Mar 01 2002 Posts: 10969 Location: Bradbados
RagingBull wrote:Any way now im back ill try and add some value so here goes.
I found the 731 season ticket number quite alarming so it prompted me to do another recount of all the seating tickets that have been sold. I did this a couple of months ago and posted my findings so ive repeated the exercise.
As of Weds night, of the available 1196 seating tickets, 670 have been sold. This obviously means only 61 standing tickets have been sold.
Whilst ive no reason to doubt the numbers i find it astounding if not totally incomprehensible that only 61 people have bought standing tickets. Surely more people than that have bought them?
Would it be beyond the realms of possibility that the club are actually under stating the number of tickets sold?
Not really sure about the figure being "alarming", though I can see where you're coming from. Given that we're moving out of the city, had a financial 'situation', been in special measures, we've not signed many players but lost a lot, and then we got the lottery fiasco and even JK has referred to Chalmers' financial running of the club in a pejorative manner according to a story in the T&A etc etc… With all that to contend with it's not really a shock, imo.
I'd imagine that many will be 'holding off' until they see how things turn out and to be honest I expect many will take the plunge and buy tickets, or if they feel travelling to Dewsbury is not something they fancy every fortnight some may well pay on the gate when they feel like the journey. We maybe need to take stock when the 'early bird' ends - though, of course, that date could be elastic. I'm not trying to talk it up. It is, or will be, serious if things don't turn round but I find it hard to be surprised, to be honest.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
Joined: Dec 31 2005 Posts: 4571 Location: Bradford
I think the problem is that these days you need to basically go to every match to gain any benefit from a Season Ticket. And I would guess that a lot of people either feel less inclined to do that - or are just unable to do so with any certainty.
Back when ST's were much cheaper, there was real value - and even when you maybe had to miss an odd game, it didn't really matter because you were still saving. Obviously that got us into financial problems, but it still made people more likely to buy one, surely. I know that was the case for me.
Perhaps the switch to Dewsbury just means that more people are going to be able to get to every game, and will just pay on the gate. The shenanigans over the close season won't have helped either.
I would hope that they acknowledge the fans right to be cautious, and offer after X games into the season (where x is greater than one but less than twice the number you first thought of) a part deal such as 6 games for the price of 5 . No idea what the technology at the Dewsbury gates would allow such as bar code scanning, so dependent on that so its a secure deal for them. seems like a good one to ask them on the Talk the Talk then Walk the Walk Q n A thingy. LOL on the Fax odds, shame FA isn't here to appreciate and commentate on them. Gulp, err,,, big gulp..... how I miss him. Please come back FA, I was wrong about everything and you were so so right.
I'm sure the big take up of seats initially will have been people thinking the stand will get full. Also to get a decent view you really need to be a few rows back so less to choose from. If you're standing there is no rush to get one until the deadline...
Joined: Feb 22 2002 Posts: 7027 Location: Just Behind Parksides Club
paulwalker71 wrote:Apparently everything is fine with the Bulls and the past two years haven't been a disaster, and there's no need at all for any kind of inquiry...
Who lives in this fantasy world then? Step forward Mr Ralph Rimmer...
As an outsider in all this and of course not fully understanding all the goings on, it does appear to smack of a massive cover up by the RFL - it strikes me that an independent enquiry is the only way to provide any clarity
Hope you come out of this stronger, but I wouldn’t trust the RFL as far as I could chuck em
paulwalker71 wrote:Apparently everything is fine with the Bulls and the past two years haven't been a disaster, and there's no need at all for any kind of inquiry...
Who lives in this fantasy world then? Step forward Mr Ralph Rimmer...
As an outsider in all this and of course not fully understanding all the goings on, it does appear to smack of a massive cover up by the RFL - it strikes me that an independent enquiry is the only way to provide any clarity
Hope you come out of this stronger, but I wouldn’t trust the RFL as far as I could chuck em
paulwalker71 wrote:I think the problem is that these days you need to basically go to every match to gain any benefit from a Season Ticket. And I would guess that a lot of people either feel less inclined to do that - or are just unable to do so with any certainty.
Back when ST's were much cheaper, there was real value - and even when you maybe had to miss an odd game, it didn't really matter because you were still saving. Obviously that got us into financial problems, but it still made people more likely to buy one, surely. I know that was the case for me.
Perhaps the switch to Dewsbury just means that more people are going to be able to get to every game, and will just pay on the gate. The shenanigans over the close season won't have helped either.
I agree with that. If you're only getting one or two games free and there's a chance you might miss one or two games, what benefit do you really get, other than the made up ones like "priority to ask the bulls".
It doesn't help that the club are still saying "announced in due course" when asked what the gate prices will be. So people actually don't know what the saving of a season ticket is and the way the club don't want to announce them would make conspiracy theorists think that there probably isn't a high saving which is why they're being all shy about it.
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Joined: Mar 01 2002 Posts: 10969 Location: Bradbados
martinwildbull wrote:I would hope that they acknowledge the fans right to be cautious, and offer after X games into the season (where x is greater than one but less than twice the number you first thought of) a part deal such as 6 games for the price of 5 . No idea what the technology at the Dewsbury gates would allow such as bar code scanning, so dependent on that so its a secure deal for them. seems like a good one to ask them on the Talk the Talk then Walk the Walk Q n A thingy. LOL on the Fax odds, shame FA isn't here to appreciate and commentate on them. Gulp, err,,, big gulp..... how I miss him. Please come back FA, I was wrong about everything and you were so so right.
The "bar-code scanning" at Odsal consisted of a few people with mobile phones at a gate, trying to catch a half second when the wind wasn't blowing, so the printed out sheets could be read without blowing about all over the place. Sort of 21st century, but perhaps not quite as we'd imagined it - that said, I'd expect the same to be the order of the day at Dewsbury.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain
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