Spegsdrinkingbuddy wrote:He seems a genuine honest guy but obviously needs to think about his family and earning potential, but medical facts are medical facts and if it looks like your playing standards are compromised by a reoccurring injury it would be dishonest to carry on, i for one hope it is ok for him to carry on but if he carries on by just managing the problem I for one thinks it’s wrong and a waste of a precious quota spot, btw I may be a mile off with my appraisal of him , it is just my observation and opininion.
It’s also very easy to make comments about the possible moral stance someone else should take. We can all take the moral high ground when we are not personally involved.
Sorry Spegs but you seem to be having a lot of time away from work with your health issues. Our valued customers have been talking amongst themselves and they think that in the interests of the company you should resign. I appreciate your contract is for another two years but the customers think you are being dishonest if you stay with us. That would be wrong. They also think that if you make yourself unemployed the money we save could be better spent on a younger, fitter chap. I hope your wife and family agree that the interests of the company, your fellow employees and our customers have to take priority over any hardship your expected decision will cause them. We all know you will do the right thing.
Keiththered wrote:It’s also very easy to make comments about the possible moral stance someone else should take. We can all take the moral high ground when we are not personally involved.
Sorry Spegs but you seem to be having a lot of time away from work with your health issues. Our valued customers have been talking amongst themselves and they think that in the interests of the company you should resign. I appreciate your contract is for another two years but the customers think you are being dishonest if you stay with us. That would be wrong. They also think that if you make yourself unemployed the money we save could be better spent on a younger, fitter chap. I hope your wife and family agree that the interests of the company, your fellow employees and our customers have to take priority over any hardship your expected decision will cause them. We all know you will do the right thing.
Bizarrely I quit a job 3 years ago due to mental health problems, it was me quitting them as I did not believe that the £35000 package I was on at the time I could honestly justify and was feeling levels of guilt which was amplifying my anxiety as a consequence, they did not want me to leave but understood the reasons and let me go as it was in all honesty the best situation for both parties, I am now on £10000 a year in a part time labouring role but feeling better than I did when I was their, my financial situation is poor but was the best decision I could have made. That is 100% true btw.
Spegsdrinkingbuddy wrote:Bizarrely I quit a job 3 years ago due to mental health problems, it was me quitting them as I did not believe that the £35000 package I was on at the time I could honestly justify and was feeling levels of guilt which was amplifying my anxiety as a consequence, they did not want me to leave but understood the reasons and let me go as it was in all honesty the best situation for both parties, I am now on £10000 a year in a part time labouring role but feeling better than I did when I was their, my financial situation is poor but was the best decision I could have made. That is 100% true btw.
Sorry to hear of your problems. The point being that it was your choice and credit to you for making that choice.
I just don’t think other people should be suggesting what others do and putting a moral slant on things.
Rewind all of that, just done a quick light research on sezer and it appears he plays for turkey on the international scene , I think but may need mild rover on this but would he occupy a non fed spot and who would that involve who could leave or have we a spot for him ?
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Spegsdrinkingbuddy wrote:Rewind all of that, just done a quick light research on sezer and it appears he plays for turkey on the international scene , I think but may need mild rover on this but would he occupy a non fed spot and who would that involve who could leave or have we a spot for him ?
He’d definitely be non-fed.
For quota, I don’t know if Turkey is covered by the Kolpak thing, or whether that will even apply after Brexit. But non-fed means we’d need to lose another non-fed if we assume AQ, SKD, MP, WH, MG, MM and WH are our current 7. And losing them, imo, just creates similar another in most cases - just in a different position.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
For quota, I don’t know if Turkey is covered by the Kolpak thing, or whether that will even apply after Brexit. But non-fed means we’d need to lose another non-fed if we assume AQ, SKD, MP, WH, MG, MM and WH are our current 7. And losing them, imo, just creates similar another in most cases - just in a different position.
Thanks , I think,is one of the 2 WH meant to be KL, and do I understand it to mean you are allowed a total of 5 Australian/ New Zealand overseas players but 2 more can get through by holding a European passport but being classed as non federation trained , so basically 7 max non fed in effect ? PS would of been funny to see the remain battle bus of 2016 displaying the possible peril of brexit meaning it could weaken rugby league standards in uk
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Spegsdrinkingbuddy wrote:Thanks , I think,is one of the 2 WH meant to be KL,
Yes it is.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Ignoring leavers and joiners before the end of the season, here's where we are so far for 2020 (regardless if on loan etc unless they were out on loan and their contract is now up.
Out: Shaw McGuire Atkin Drinkwater Greenwood Addy Tomkins Lunt Oakes Wallis Keinhorst Hall (Waiting on Lannon)
In: Abdul SKD Ryan Gee Livett Minikin Rawsthorne Maher (Waiting on Murray) (Waiting on Parcell)
Staying: Quinlan Crookes Mulhern Masoe Hauraki Garbutt Lawler Linnett Hadley Litten Dagger Harrison Rooks Lewis Bardle
Gallanteer wrote:Ignoring leavers and joiners before the end of the season, here's where we are so far for 2020 (regardless if on loan etc unless they were out on loan and their contract is now up.
Out: Shaw McGuire Atkin Drinkwater Greenwood Addy Tomkins Lunt Oakes Wallis Keinhorst Hall (Waiting on Lannon)
In: Abdul SKD Ryan Gee Livett Minikin Rawsthorne Maher (Waiting on Murray) (Waiting on Parcell)
Staying: Quinlan Crookes Mulhern Masoe Hauraki Garbutt Lawler Linnett Hadley Litten Dagger Harrison Rooks Lewis Bardle
I think thats it as far as I can tell.
The one name on there I'm very disappointed to see go is young Elliot Wallis. From what I've seen of him he looked very good, He's young, extremely fast and strong, in fact apparently he was the fastest man at the club in training. It doesn't make sense to me letting a young talented player like that go, especially when we are fielding a reserve side next season, I believe he will become a very good over the next year or two player. This is one I fear that will come back to bite us on the arris.
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