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The Devil's Advocate wrote:Well, bog-standard front pages from the usual suspects, "will of the people" & all that.
But the Sun!
Using a play on a catchphrase from a comedian who's been dead for donkey's years!
Anyhow, I have a strange feeling Boris has another card up his sleeve, I just hope those trying to stop the right wing coup keep their eyes on the ball.
I think they are all playing into his hands - all he is trying to do is deliver Brexit. This has been frustrated at every opportunity by the courts, the speaker, the MPs etc.
It seems strange to me that our own people will send our own PM cap in hand to the EU to please ask for another extension - which side are they on?
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The Devil's Advocate wrote:Anyhow, I have a strange feeling Boris has another card up his sleeve, I just hope those trying to stop the right wing coup keep their eyes on the ball.
Unless Johnson is advised by complete morons he would have seen this coming; which backs up your point. So he either sacks his advisers & resigns, or carries on in his own morally corrupt ways, smirking at the proles.
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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Sal Paradise wrote:I think they are all playing into his hands - all he is trying to do is deliver Brexit. This has been frustrated at every opportunity by the courts, the speaker, the MPs etc.
How many times. Johnson voted against Brexit. It takes remarkable intellectual dexterity to claim as your hero someone whose vote contributed to us still being in the EU.
Sal Paradise wrote:It seems strange to me that our own people will send our own PM cap in hand to the EU to please ask for another extension - which side are they on?
There we have it again, the mask slips. Painting this as some sort of battle rather than a negotiation and questioning the patriotism of people on the other side of this issue.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
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The Ghost of '99 wrote:How many times. Johnson voted against Brexit. It takes remarkable intellectual dexterity to claim as your hero someone whose vote contributed to us still being in the EU. There we have it again, the mask slips. Painting this as some sort of battle rather than a negotiation and questioning the patriotism of people on the other side of this issue.
Johnson voted twice against a deal that is quite frankly leaves us at the mercy of the EU - surely even to you that cannot be correct?
This isn't about mask slipping this is about delivering on what the people asked for in the most productive way possible. When you have people who are supposedly supporting the UK side actively working with the EU to reduce the chance of a decent deal what would you call that.
In the commercial world if someone from within your company gave pricing details to a competitor how would you describe that?
That is exactly what is going on here - Blair has been advising the EU how to proceed, Labour have been having discussions with the EU around a softer Brexit. This isn't negotiating with a united front this is simply party politics to undermine the "negotiating position"
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Sal Paradise wrote:Johnson voted twice against a deal that is quite frankly leaves us at the mercy of the EU -
actively working with the EU to reduce the chance of a decent deal.
undermine the "negotiating position"
Do you get your sensationalist, emotive & xenophobic language from the same right wing gutter press as Johnson?
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tigertot wrote:Do you get your sensationalist, emotive & xenophobic language from the same right wing gutter press as Johnson?
Where is the xenophobic language? where is the sensationalistic language - are you saying Labour are lying when their leader says he had separate discussions with the EU's team? Are you suggesting Blair hasn't been advising the EU?
Or is it as usual you simply making stuff up?
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Sal Paradise wrote:Where is the xenophobic language? where is the sensationalistic language - are you saying Labour are lying when their leader says he had separate discussions with the EU's team? Are you suggesting Blair hasn't been advising the EU?
Or is it as usual you simply making stuff up?
Your whole language is one of the EU being something we should be afraid of. Please show any of the stuff I have made up.
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tigertot wrote:Your whole language is one of the EU being something we should be afraid of. Please show any of the stuff I have made up.
Northern Rail performance for one.
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Sal Paradise wrote:Northern Rail performance for one.
Sal Paradise wrote:most users would suggest punctuality have improved significantly since nationalisation
Prior to privatisation punctuality was c90% (not Northern Rail as they did not exist). As I informed you punctuality on Northern Rail is now 50-60% (using Network Rail’s own KPI -https://www.networkrail.co.uk/who-we-are/how-we-work/performance/railway-performance/ ) or 80% if we use the next measure of 3 minutes. Even someone as dim as your mate IR80 can work out which figure is the higher.
So. Next. Please show any of the stuff I have made up.
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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tigertot wrote:Prior to privatisation punctuality was c90% (not Northern Rail as they did not exist). As I informed you punctuality on Northern Rail is now 50-60% (using Network Rail’s own KPI -https://www.networkrail.co.uk/who-we-are/how-we-work/performance/railway-performance/ ) or 80% if we use the next measure of 3 minutes. Even someone as dim as your mate IR80 can work out which figure is the higher.
So. Next. Please show any of the stuff I have made up.
oh dear, more insults.
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