The starter for 10 would be to NOT promise tax cuts, when life and death situations are being ignored - that was easy want it.

tigertot wrote:I said compared to the UK it is. I can back up my statement. Over to you. https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/20/eu- ... -be-scrapp ....

tigertot wrote:I said compared to the UK it is. I can back up my statement. Over to you. https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/20/eu- ... -be-scrapp ....

That is not going to get your mentally ill teenager treated - perhaps we should direct all this money it is going to cost to buy back all these utilities into the NHS? equally easy

So your an overworked professional your choice is a child being abused at home or a teenager contemplating suicide what do you do - these are the choices that have to be made? You are not stupid so why is this such a difficult reality for you to accept?

Should we also stop gender reassignment, gastric bands etc?

Lung Cancer
Obesity
Diabetes
Alcoholism
Drug Addiction
Cosmetic Surgery

as Sal says, where does it start, where does it stop?

It is a finite pot of money where demands on it through increased population and advances in clinical and drug techniques are running faster than the money you can put into it. This is not a difficult concept to grasp - seriously!!

IR80 wrote:https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/20/eu-parliament-s-114m-a-year-move-to-strasbourg-a-waste-of-money-but-will-it-ever-be-scrapp .... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... estoration

IR80 wrote:https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/20/eu-parliament-s-114m-a-year-move-to-strasbourg-a-waste-of-money-but-will-it-ever-be-scrapp .... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... estoration

So your ok with kids committing suicide ?

I dont know the timetables for treatment of all the above, some of which are extremely serious but, others are not likely to mean the imminent death of someone.
You're the genius, maybe you should decide.

Maybe your solution would be to wait until someone is dangling on a rope or bleeding out and then treat them.
Personally, I would suggest that, where possible, it may be better not to let things reach that point.

As I said in my pervious post, our current government has slashed certain services during the 10+ years of austerity and would rather cut taxes for the top 5% of earners that help people at the bottom of the pile.
In what type of civilised society can this be right ??

You really are a prize tool.

I asked earlier why or how it can be right to offer tax cuts, when there are such serious issues to deal with - get a grip man.

No name calling or we'll all get dun.

Agreed, we have differences, but we can discuss as grown ups.

Personally, I cannot decide who is more "deserving", a suicidal teenager, a lung cancer sufferer who has smoked 100 a week, a dementia sufferer, someone who identifies as a different gender, someone who is overweight but cannot stop eating.

As Sal has said, where does it stop?

Now, were it a family member of mine needing the help and support I can't say, in good conscience, that I wouldn't step over a stranger to help my flesh and blood. That is human nature.

What I dislike is these politicians, on all sides, earning £100k plus, claiming expenses etc. and pontificating to me that I should pay more tax for them to squander. I have been aroud the Westminster Machine for years, and believe me, whichever cheeks are sat on the seat at No 10, the (un)Civil Servants do not change.

But it's all going to be OK, France and Finland have given the UK an ultimatum, personally I'd say well "f'k you", see how your combined strengths in trade, defense etc. serve you.