wotsupcas wrote:Jesus wept... So YOU were making stuff up to suit your agenda just like you accused Brexit supporters of doing?
If you'd like to suggest to any of my fellow transport industry journalists that Dover is a container port of any note feel free but they'll laugh at you as much as they would do Sal's ill-informed comments. Probably moreso given your other posts.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Sal Paradise wrote:You are scaremongering classic "Project Fear remainer" - what do you honestly think is going happen - nothing will move until all the paperwork is changed/switched to the same paperwork as is used for non-EU cargo i.e. months - stop making stuff up. Goods will move freely from day one disruption will be minimal because of the impact on the normal commercial infrastructure of any other situation.
OK. Tell us all about what you know about bringing goods into the country from outside the EU and from inside it. Tell us where the standage areas for inspection and clearance are in Dover, where goods wait whilst they are custom cleared or where they incur demurrage if someone messes up?
On what basis do you claim "goods will move freely". Is this a guess or have you any clue or experience? Or (and I'm being kind because I'm sure the detail is really beyond you) are you suggesting our opening gambit under World Trade Association rules is to disregard WTO requirements for imposing import duties and inspection regimes and just fling our border open? At the very least you can be certain this won't be the case in Calais where they will follow the rules which define the single market.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Whatever happened to strong and stable ? We now seem to have some kind of Tory anarchy. Boris and his new henchman, Cummings, seem to have made a slight mess of things
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Yes, further irony that the Brexiteers wanted to take back control, then hand it to an unelected "career psychopath". One who believes Britain will be an example of civilised, democratic, liberal self-government.
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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Today Boris Johnson turned a majority of 1 into a minority of 20, lost his first ever vote as PM, and sacked the grandson of his hero, Winston Churchill.
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Serious question - what is the 'deal' that MPs have wrecked by the vote?
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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Just how cool did the Minister for the 18th Century look last night, slouched across the HoC benches? Him & the serial cheat & lying PM come across as the spoiled, narcissistic, petulant school children they have never developed from.
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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tigertot wrote:Just how cool did the Minister for the 18th Century look last night, slouched across the HoC benches? Him & the serial cheat & lying PM come across as the spoiled, narcissistic, petulant school children they have never developed from.
Indeed, I presume in the interest of fairness and balance you will be kind enough to highlight Corbyns history of lying. Starting with the IRA pack of lies.
tigertot wrote:Serious question - what is the 'deal' that MPs have wrecked by the vote?
It's the deal that isn't a deal - based on the negotiations that the EU themselves have said are not taking place, and which Dominic Cummings himself has described as 'a sham.'
Nicolas Soames, still clutching his P45, said on Newsnight that Boris Johnson is deliberately trying to achieve something that he knows can't be achieved, so he can blame the EU and MP's for thwarting him - which leads him nicely into a flag-waving GE that will excite the gammon army.
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