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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:16 pm 
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Stanley Unwin wrote:I love how people guess, without checking anything.

For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.

It's easy enough to find out.

https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288

… fair enough, I was confusing it with dual reg which would still count on the club's cap.

I see that there is also a clause explicitly saying that injured players cannot be loaned out to reduce salary cap liability.
Stanley Unwin wrote:I love how people guess, without checking anything.

For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.

It's easy enough to find out.

https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288

… fair enough, I was confusing it with dual reg which would still count on the club's cap.

I see that there is also a clause explicitly saying that injured players cannot be loaned out to reduce salary cap liability.






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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:37 pm 
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the cal train wrote:Why have they gone now with the business end of the season fast approaching? Hadley would have been more than useful.

AP helping his mate out? This stinks.


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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:25 pm 
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scarrie wrote:If they have gone out on loan then surely they don't count on the cap for the time they are away from the club?

Although who knows?!

Interesting move this. Clearly Radders has no intention of playing departing players if he can help it. Wonder if we'll see Green again?

“No intention of playing departing players” - Not quote as he’s still playing Westerman.






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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:56 pm 
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A unknown superstar wrote:“No intention of playing departing players” - Not quote as he’s still playing Westerman.


Shouldnt be as his recent form is poor.
Would rather have had Hadley in there for the last two or thee games as Westerman is just going through the motions

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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:17 pm 
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Player welfare, as a rugby club we have an moral obligation to look after players, if we aren't going to play them and they have the chance to play SL, then I think we have to do that,particularly for players who have given their all for the club.

Not too bothered about Hadley, but think it's an error with Litten.

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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:36 pm 
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ccs wrote:…. "As part of the deal, a highly rated Hull KR academy player will also move the other way to Hull FC."


Hopefully Lewis

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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:43 pm 
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bonaire wrote:Hopefully Lewis



No way will it be him.

If we can get a decent prospect (Maybe a hooker) then it makes sense to do the deal early.

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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:47 pm 
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Rovers have recalled Lewis from a loan spell, maybe just a coincidence.






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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:50 pm 
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A unknown superstar wrote:“No intention of playing departing players” - Not quote as he’s still playing Westerman.


True. And technically Mini and Manu and maybe Paea.
Perhaps "departing fringe players" would be more accurate.






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 Post subject: Re: Leaving us
PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:22 pm 
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I think that speculation regarding Mikey Lewis going to Hull is wide of the mark.

Over the next few months it wouldn't surprise me if there were a few swap deals amongst youngsters. The recent draft has placed a few lads with the club they didn't want to be at. Most have accepted it but a few players and parents have been voiciferourous in their displeasure.

Regarding Litten and Hadley. Good business for both clubs. Neither are in your plans so it gets them off the books early and both of them get into Rovers 17 so it is win win.






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