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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:24 pm 
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fosdyke99 wrote:this system promotes mediocraty and teams like hull can get away with being inconsistent.radford isn't too bothered by the odd thrashing as long as we make the 5.to finish 5th in a league of 12 says to me you aren't championship material.knock out trophies are good,but the best team doesn't always win it.the league should be more about stamina and season long consistency.but this is just my opinion.
But if the aim was to finish top to be the champions, then clubs would approach it a different way.

We went all out for it in 2016, and almost won a treble, but we ran out of steam in the final furlong. Maybe Radford has learnt from that, and is managing our tilt at the crown differently?

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:27 pm 
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fosdyke99 wrote:this system promotes mediocraty and teams like hull can get away with being inconsistent.radford isn't too bothered by the odd thrashing as long as we make the 5.to finish 5th in a league of 12 says to me you aren't championship material.knock out trophies are good,but the best team doesn't always win it.the league should be more about stamina and season long consistency.but this is just my opinion.

Season would be all but over for clubs currently in places 3-10 applying your system. Not enough sustained interest.

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:27 pm 
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giddyupoldfella wrote:But if the aim was to finish top to be the champions, then clubs would approach it a different way.

We went all out for it in 2016, and almost won a treble, but we ran out of steam in the final furlong. Maybe Radford has learnt from that, and is managing our tilt at the crown differently?

Indeed, as the saying goes, "you can only play whats in front of you", and that includes the competition format.

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:45 am 
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Mrs Barista wrote:They are the wishes of all 12 clubs and fanbases. I suspect there's a bit of "what we have we hold" in that the last 4 seasons have been amongst our best in a generation, and in the context of a Grand Final success glass ceiling we have more to lose than win. At least we have a Jekyll. Without it we'd be mired in the crappy relegation dogfight. :lol:


How true that is and it's not lost on me. You just look at the best in the comp and want to be better! I just think if we come away empty handed this season some of those heavy defeats which have crept into our results in the last couple of seasons will be blamed. Attitude is everything. Ours just needs to be good more often.






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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:54 am 
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Darkside Dave wrote:Attitude is everything. Ours just needs to be good more often.

Can you 'coach' attitude, are we missing leaders on the pitch?

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:26 am 
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fosdyke99 wrote:this system promotes mediocraty and teams like hull can get away with being inconsistent.radford isn't too bothered by the odd thrashing as long as we make the 5.to finish 5th in a league of 12 says to me you aren't championship material.knock out trophies are good,but the best team doesn't always win it.the league should be more about stamina and season long consistency.but this is just my opinion.


You’re, of course, entitled to that preference. In some ways I share it - that most games are played to win a prize derided as the hubcap isn’t brilliant imo.

Do you regard the Hull teams of 1955-56 and and 1957-58 as not true champions, because they finished the league seasons in 4th place?

There were one or more seasons when you finished top but didn’t win the Championship final, i’m pretty sure, but I don’t have time to check which now.






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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:00 am 
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https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... -1-9862440

blumin heck!

amazed he's even considering playing Thursday!
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... -1-9862440

blumin heck!

amazed he's even considering playing Thursday!

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 Post subject: Re: Saints
PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:48 am 
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IR80 wrote:https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/gareth-ellis-my-eye-socket-went-straight-into-the-top-of-his-head-1-9862440

blumin heck!

amazed he's even considering playing Thursday!



Our game is brutal and uncompromising at times, the athletes and warriors who entertain us are magnificent.

Ellis has been a very special player, on both sides of the world, nothing surprises me regarding this guy.

No need for him to play against London. Get well soon Gaz.

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IR80 wrote:https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/gareth-ellis-my-eye-socket-went-straight-into-the-top-of-his-head-1-9862440

blumin heck!

amazed he's even considering playing Thursday!


Saw the blood spurt from his face as soon as it happened and thought it bad at the time but that is far worse than I envisaged.
A true warrior but can't believe he's thinking of playing Thursday.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:46 am 
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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:Our game is brutal and uncompromising at times, the athletes and warriors who entertain us are magnificent.

Ellis has been a very special player, on both sides of the world, nothing surprises me regarding this guy.

No need for him to play against London. Get well soon Gaz.


He's a machine but he needs protecting from himself. Another week off won't hurt.






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