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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:43 am 
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Dave K. wrote:With Ellis looking like he will be staying.

Pack of
Taylor/Sao
Houghton/Litten
Evans/Bowden
Jones/Lane
Thompson/Savelio
Ellis/Fash

Plus
Thompson
Masi
Brown
Levy
Bienek

Maybe need another backrower, would like to keep Hadley, also rumour of Sao maybe playing at LF.

I think we may lose a young prop, would expect that to be Levy.

Think Jordan Thompson might also leave.


Decent first choice pack but there's no depth there, particularly in the back row. We could lose mini, manu, westerman, hadley, washbrook and your list only has us replacing them with jones and thompson. We can't expect ellis to be playing week in, week out. I'd like us to keep green as it would give us the option of playing a prop at 13 but can't see him being here next year. Hopefully the kenny edwards rumour is true. A back row of jones, thompson, savelio and edwards would give us some real punch if it happened but probably stretching the salary cap too far to expect that






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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:00 am 
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I haven't followed Catalans all that closely this year tbh but Kenny Edwards had a mare the other night and from reading various comments that just seems to have been the norm this year. Apparently he is having a really bad season.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:02 am 
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I thought that Edwards signed for Cats because he couldn't get a visa in UK due to past problems. Has that situation changed?

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:51 am 
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Id rather we signed Thompson and went with Thompson, Savelio, Jones and Lane as our main second rowers, backed up by any academy talent.

Evans and Sao for the prop/LF roles

And id say were good to go, possibly with a quota spot to spare. Possibly less numbers higher quality

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:41 am 
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If Westerman, Manu, Minichiello, Hadley and Paea are all leaving I would definately keep Green and just play with another prop at 13. We don't really have anyone else who can play the Westerman role, so we may aswell just play to our strengths and go big. I have seen suggestions that Kelly or Connor could play 13, but I'm not sure either have the engine or are strong enough defenders. Both can tackle, but defending in the middle is a whole different prospect. It might be worth an experiment, but I aren't mad on the idea.

Shaul
Naulago
Connor
Tuimavave
Faraimo
Kelly
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Evans
Jones
Thompson
Sao

Savelio
Green
Bowden
Griffin

That's a hell of a 17 imo. You also have Ellis to go into that equation, but I wouldn't have him playing week in week out, just pick and choose his moments and make sure he is available for the crunch games. Still a quota spot there aswell, may leave the door open for Paea unless there is someone else on the way?

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:47 am 
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:If Westerman, Manu, Minichiello, Hadley and Paea are all leaving I would definately keep Green and just play with another prop at 13. We don't really have anyone else who can play the Westerman role, so we may aswell just play to our strengths and go big. I have seen suggestions that Kelly or Connor could play 13, but I'm not sure either have the engine or are strong enough defenders. Both can tackle, but defending in the middle is a whole different prospect. It might be worth an experiment, but I aren't mad on the idea.

Shaul
Naulago
Connor
Tuimavave
Faraimo
Kelly
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Evans
Jones
Thompson
Sao

Savelio
Green
Bowden
Griffin

That's a hell of a 17 imo. You also have Ellis to go into that equation, but I wouldn't have him playing week in week out, just pick and choose his moments and make sure he is available for the crunch games. Still a quota spot there aswell, may leave the door open for Paea unless there is someone else on the way?


Agree about Chris Green, he has shown energy and a fair bit of speed on his return, keep him.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:05 am 
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Riderofthepalehorse wrote:Agree about Chris Green, he has shown energy and a fair bit of speed on his return, keep him.


Since Watts left I have always said that he is our 2nd best prop. The main issue was his injury record. He is starting to string some games together now and we are seeing what he can do. He makes good yards, hardly ever makes an error, and is very good at controling and slowing the ptb without giving up many penalties.

We would be daft not to keep him and if he does leave he would make a good signing for pretty much anyone.

Edit: Just looking at Green's stats. It's a small sample size, but in 5 appearances in the league he has only made 1 error and hasn't conceded a penalty whilst his average carry is 7.91 metres and he has 9 tackle busts. That's a better average gain than both Walmsley and Thompson.


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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:09 am 
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Rocknrolla69er wrote:Id rather we signed Thompson and went with Thompson, Savelio, Jones and Lane as our main second rowers, backed up by any academy talent.

Evans and Sao for the prop/LF roles

And id say were good to go, possibly with a quota spot to spare. Possibly less numbers higher quality

Do we have any backrowers waiting in the wings? Like a lot of people I've lost track since the merger.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:56 pm 
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With only lane and brown coming through who are forwards , and I can’t see brown playing that much for a while , I think we need to be going like for like in terms of numbers in the forwards . So if we release 6 , we need 6 new forwards for me .

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:51 pm 
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We leader and in his prime. The other linked in my opinion
need to get the Thompson one past the line. Good player and a Evans- could either be a Sam Moa on prime or a Paul McNicholas, so jury is out
Sao- Never seen him so can't judge
Edwards- IMO no improvement on Manu. Would like to see a few more names linked and yes I would take a gamble on Watkins but not as a marquee

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