HamsterChops wrote:I don't think The Phantom Horsemen is making a bad point here. There's not a lot of difference between Fev this year especially (after cutting costs massively) and Bradford last year. The comment about running a reserve grade but playing DR players is redundant too, as Bradford last year ran a reserve grade, but in the first team saw the likes of Egodo, Hitchcox, Green, Lilley, Laithwaite & Butler-Fleming picked above those reserves. Loads of clubs do it. I don't think any club who has used the loan/DR systems can claim to be holier than thou. Personally I agree DR is awful, but equally don't blame clubs like Fev, Sheffield & Leigh for exploiting it if it's there and they can get some quality in their side that they'd otherwise be lacking.
I take more issue with people like Lee Greenwood at Dewsbury. Outspoken about how he doesn't like DR, but then massively overuses the loan market meaning their team regularly has 3, 4 or 5 loan players in the side. He's using semantics of the differences between DR and loans to be a massive hypocrite.
I think you have gotten confused, The discussion was about duel reg players not loans. All the players u listed were loans not DR. And while u were trying to be a smart a**s you missed off Jonny Pownall
HamsterChops wrote: I take more issue with people like Lee Greenwood at Dewsbury. Outspoken about how he doesn't like DR, but then massively overuses the loan market meaning their team regularly has 3, 4 or 5 loan players in the side. He's using semantics of the differences between DR and loans to be a massive hypocrite.
quite - when Dewsbury beat Fev at our place, they played two from Wakefield, one from Wigan and one from Hull KR. No complaints from me of course, it's all in the rules, but earlier in the year various Dewsbury fans had been on our forum mocking us for using other teams' players. As for the comments about DR/loan players being used instead of reserve teams, Chris Annakin played for Dewsbury against Fev then for Wakefield reserves against Fev reserves just over a week later!
People's mood about DR/multiple loans just seems to change depending on whether they need it at that time or not. Even John Kear, who I like a lot, spoke out against DR lately, yet he was more than happy to use it when he was at Batley (including when they beat Fev in a Championship semi final) and of course Batley almost got relegated under Kear's stewardship when they were deducted three points for a breach of the DR rules before they were controversially let off.
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What an absolute mess it all is, talk about divide and fall. The SL clubs must be absolutely wetting theirselves at the rest of us. Time to tell 'em where to go but unfortunately some turkeys have already voted for Christmas haven't they?
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RagingBull wrote:I think you have gotten confused, The discussion was about duel reg players not loans. All the players u listed were loans not DR. And while u were trying to be a smart a**s you missed off Jonny Pownall
Semantics to suit your argument. There's very little difference between DR and loan, the team are still playing lads from another club over their own reserves. I deliberately missed Pownall because I seem to recall he was bad enough that he didn't really take anyone's place apart from a few bench cameos.
HamsterChops wrote:Semantics to suit your argument. There's very little difference between DR and loan, the team are still playing lads from another club over their own reserves. I deliberately missed Pownall because I seem to recall he was bad enough that he didn't really take anyone's place apart from a few bench cameos.
Actually, there is a very important difference between a loan and a DR. A loan is a minimum 4 week contract with no recall, where as DRs can pop in and out of either their contracted team or DR team at will.
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