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 Post subject: Re: Game 4 - hull fc (h)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:18 pm 
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hxgiant wrote:I’ve always tried to take the line that it’s up to Ken it’s his money etc


The sixty odd quid I spent on Sunday wasn’t his money. It was mine.






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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:19 pm 
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GIANTSRL wrote:good to see the old posters back :lol:



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:54 pm 
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GIANTSRL wrote:come on, warrington and leeds pay marquee players so spend more than us to name just two

the problem is now we arent an attractive club to join, the only way we can get players now is to offer a longer deal than another club... uate for example a 3 yr deal... others maybe offered 2 but he will come here for an extra year.. just an example there are others in this team too

then you can delve further into the academy scene where the top youngsters in the area are being picked up by the clubs with more money, offering them money at a young age, cant blame the parents too for saying you would be better going to wigan etc than hudds


Let’s compare ourselves with our near neighbours Wakey and Cas The are doing better than us withlower Salary cap or they were until recently , no marquee players , not the best facilities at the ground and all with players who are playing better than ours.

That is about them being better run-and Happier clubs. Ours has been run badly and not playing in the WCC said we are mediocre and are happy to stay like that. From there the only way was downhill.






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 Post subject: Re: Game 4 - hull fc (h)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:34 pm 
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Durham Giant wrote:Let’s compare ourselves with our near neighbours Wakey and Cas The are dang uhbetter thans wit lower Sala Cas o theywere innti recently , no marquee players , not the best facilities at the ground and all with players who are playing better than ours.

That is about them being better runand Napier clubs. Ours has been run badly and not playing in the WCC said we are mediocre and are happy to stay like that. From there the only way was downhill.

Looks like you've got touch of the Borats there.

A couple of paracetamols and an early night for you I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Game 4 - hull fc (h)
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To be fair with the money Huddersfield spend on players they should be doing better, granted injuries don’t help but as someone says it doesn’t and never has looked like a happy club imo. Not having a dig btw. I just think with Davy pumping money in the signings aren’t considered / thought as much as say Wakefield’s would be?

We always seem to get the best out of players that other clubs wouldn’t.

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 Post subject: Re: Game 4 - hull fc (h)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:37 am 
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wakefield1990 wrote:To be fair with the money Huddersfield spend on players they should be doing better, granted injuries don’t help but as someone says it doesn’t and never has looked like a happy club imo. Not having a dig btw. I just think with Davy pumping money in the signings aren’t considered / thought as much as say Wakefield’s would be?

We always seem to get the best out of players that other clubs wouldn’t.


To be fair, there was a period of several years where Fartown were on the up and going well. At that point, they had nearly jumped from the Wakey/Widnes/Salford group of clubs into the top group - looking set to replace Bradford.

A couple of things happened within the squad that made things difficult. But the biggest thing for me was that the club - not necessarily the squad - didn’t have the courage to make the step up.

There’s a pivotal moment in the lives of successful people where they choose to step up to another level. It’s not easy to do that, particularly if you have no experience of it. It’s risky. Many people who try to make that step fail (look at Liverpool - they tried and failed under Brendan Rogers, will they succeed under Klopp?). But absolutely everyone who doesn’t take that step fails.

In some organisations taking that step up is an expected part of the organisation. In British RL you’d look to St Helens, Wigan, Leeds when Sinfield was playing. Or the All Blacks, Manchester United under Fergie, Liverpool for about 30 years, Yorkshire CCC for decades until Geoffrey Boycott destroyed the culture.

The others - like Wakey, for example - are pretty much drifting along in an easy and comfortable culture of mediocrity going nowhere.

The thing with Wakefield is that they’ve not been close to that breakthrough moment for fifty years. They’re happy as a club to be the sixth or seventh best in the league in a good year and they don’t appear to have any interest in changing that. Which I can understand - most people run their entire lives on those lines. It’s a comfortable way to live. But then most people aren’t elite sportsmen.

My frustration with the Giants is that they worked bloody hard to get to that big decision point, and then the management of the club went “Nah, better to sit back and tick along as we have done for years.”

They were almost there. If they’d tried and failed, that would be disappointing but forgivable. But the club lacked the guts to try. It’s no surprise that the players, who are the ones who put in the blood and sweat and pain, just gave up and now the club can’t attract decent players.

Such a waste.






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 Post subject: Re: Game 4 - hull fc (h)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:48 am 
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Steve May wrote:To be fair, there was a period of several years where Fartown were on the up and going well. At that point, they had nearly jumped from the Wakey/Widnes/Salford group of clubs into the top group - looking set to replace Bradford.

A couple of things happened within the squad that made things difficult. But the biggest thing for me was that the club - not necessarily the squad - didn’t have the courage to make the step up.

There’s a pivotal moment in the lives of successful people where they choose to step up to another level. It’s not easy to do that, particularly if you have no experience of it. It’s risky. Many people who try to make that step fail (look at Liverpool - they tried and failed under Brendan Rogers, will they succeed under Klopp?). But absolutely everyone who doesn’t take that step fails.

In some organisations taking that step up is an expected part of the organisation. In British RL you’d look to St Helens, Wigan, Leeds when Sinfield was playing. Or the All Blacks, Manchester United under Fergie, Liverpool for about 30 years, Yorkshire CCC for decades until Geoffrey Boycott destroyed the culture.

The others - like Wakey, for example - are pretty much drifting along in an easy and comfortable culture of mediocrity going nowhere.

The thing with Wakefield is that they’ve not been close to that breakthrough moment for fifty years. They’re happy as a club to be the sixth or seventh best in the league in a good year and they don’t appear to have any interest in changing that. Which I can understand - most people run their entire lives on those lines. It’s a comfortable way to live. But then most people aren’t elite sportsmen.

My frustration with the Giants is that they worked bloody hard to get to that big decision point, and then the management of the club went “Nah, better to sit back and tick along as we have done for years.”

They were almost there. If they’d tried and failed, that would be disappointing but forgivable. But the club lacked the guts to try. It’s no surprise that the players, who are the ones who put in the blood and sweat and pain, just gave up and now the club can’t attract decent players.

Such a waste.


No issue with most of what you say but in Wakefields case they have rebuilt, there is no sugar daddy Michael Carter runs a tight ship he does not spend money the club does not have. Income streams are increasing so more money is available. The club is hamstrung with the stadium at the moment once that gets sorted which currently seems way off the club punching at a specific level. What it has got is a streamlined admin behind the team. The playrrs themselves appear to get on well and are bought into the vision of Carter and Chestet things are getting better.






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 Post subject: Re: Game 4 - hull fc (h)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:22 am 
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Steve May wrote:To be fair, there was a period of several years where Fartown were on the up and going well. At that point, they had nearly jumped from the Wakey/Widnes/Salford group of clubs into the top group - looking set to replace Bradford.

A couple of things happened within the squad that made things difficult. But the biggest thing for me was that the club - not necessarily the squad - didn’t have the courage to make the step up.

There’s a pivotal moment in the lives of successful people where they choose to step up to another level. It’s not easy to do that, particularly if you have no experience of it. It’s risky. Many people who try to make that step fail (look at Liverpool - they tried and failed under Brendan Rogers, will they succeed under Klopp?). But absolutely everyone who doesn’t take that step fails.

In some organisations taking that step up is an expected part of the organisation. In British RL you’d look to St Helens, Wigan, Leeds when Sinfield was playing. Or the All Blacks, Manchester United under Fergie, Liverpool for about 30 years, Yorkshire CCC for decades until Geoffrey Boycott destroyed the culture.

The others - like Wakey, for example - are pretty much drifting along in an easy and comfortable culture of mediocrity going nowhere.

The thing with Wakefield is that they’ve not been close to that breakthrough moment for fifty years. They’re happy as a club to be the sixth or seventh best in the league in a good year and they don’t appear to have any interest in changing that. Which I can understand - most people run their entire lives on those lines. It’s a comfortable way to live. But then most people aren’t elite sportsmen.

My frustration with the Giants is that they worked bloody hard to get to that big decision point, and then the management of the club went “Nah, better to sit back and tick along as we have done for years.”

They were almost there. If they’d tried and failed, that would be disappointing but forgivable. But the club lacked the guts to try. It’s no surprise that the players, who are the ones who put in the blood and sweat and pain, just gave up and now the club can’t attract decent players.

Such a waste.

For me that pivotal moment was when we refused to compete in the World Club Challenge. If I was a player at that time I would have been gutted not to play against an NRL side and as a fan I was gutted we turned down that opportunity to witness us compete against an NRL team. Perhaps that message then sent out that we are happy to settle for less and in some small way has affected the attitudes of people at the club.






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