A sad night for me and the penny has dropped with numerous things.

We expect too much as fans, we have turned into a average team with little or no chance of challenging for play offs or silverware again in the near future and its the truth. Something im going to have to learn to deal with as are the rest but its difficult knowing you are playing to make up the numbers.

We as a club are never going to attract overseas players like Hurrell, Austin etc so for me we should not bother with them at all. We could have signed someone like Josh Charnely for half of what Uate is on. Our better players for me are the ones coming from our academy Jerry, Darnell & Matty English. I simply wouldnt be bothered if we lost every overseas player from our squad next season.

Teams similar to us like Wakey and Salford manage to get decent overseas signings like Lui, Hastings, Sau, Fifita etc but we seem to end up with the likes of Matagi and Uate who are more bothered about pissing about on snap chat than playing rugby. Matagi is absolutely woeful for me. Uate tonight was even worse. Catching a ball or even attempting to go for the ball is simple basics. I would drop both next week but ill guarantee both will keep their place as they are Woolfords signings.

We have far too many crocks in the team such as Cudjoe, Ferguson, Wardle x 2 & more.

People questioned Stones signings including myself and I have a massive feeling we will be here saying the same about Woolford in 6 weeks time.

I see nothing more than us been at the bottom of the table having lost 6/6 and the season becoming about survival, salvaging and planning for next year, once again.

We dont get anything from referees and never have but yet again we have a new manager and same problems persist with knocking on and discipline etc.

A win against Hull next week is a must for the club especially with the players they have injured, but I just cant see it.

Agree completely with the imports and i have said on another thread. Walne was excellent for me tonight, and together with English were our best two forwards. Like you say , Woolford needs to get the respect of his players by dropping those that are underperforming REGARDLESS of their wage or stature. Uate should have come off tonight he was so bad, not only that he made the mistakes that he did, but that he was shaking his head, and wandering around like he was a sunday league player instead of an international winger.

We shouldn't be signing 32 year old wingers for me....especially for 3 years!!! I sincerely hope he gets home sick as I do with Matagi.

I agree he should be dropped but if Wardle is injured I would move him to the centres and give the Seniors a chance. Darnell should remain at FB.

2nd bottom would be an achievement based on the first three games

we punched above our weight for a few years but are now back where a club of our support and finances should be we have no right to be near the top tables for the size of our club and thats the reality, for years the fans got too high expectations and now they are left disapointed as the trophies didnt come but neither did the crowds to help kick on.

My concern is the errors and game plan.

We are obsessed with one man drives to make yardage, we have strong players, but when it obvious who is getting the ball, there are no lead runners and the person taking the ball is stood first man out of the ruck it's the easiest defensive read ever,it gives us no chance, the defence compresses and they send 3/4 men at the guy who's obviously getting the ball, we can't make the yards.

Some of the errors are horrendous, I don't know how patient we can all be, it feels like since the last year under Anderson we have been a team that get excited when we finally have the ball and somehow manage to gift possession to the opposition through an error. Then there's the penalties, we too often can't control the ruck and then mess about trying to slow the ptb and give away a mass of penalties.

Its so frustrating, part of me thinks its coaching, but then it's gone on for so long with so many different players it makes me think its a culture thing that being a huddersfield player breeds.

Got to agree regarding the better players being the local lads who really seem to care or have a point to prove. I'm all for giving players time, and will do with the new guys, but I'm really concerned about Frawley so far, for me he was outshone by Farrell, Gaskell is the dominant half when they play together, and as an NRL half on big money I was expecting him to have more than a show and go, at the moment Frawley seems like an expensive Jamie Ellis.

One thing I think we are lacking is a leader, someone who sets the standard who players respect, players like Hodgson and O'Donnell would not accept the standards currently set and the players wouldn't dare let them down. I don't know which current player sets that standard, probably only maybe Taai but he's not a vocal leader.

Very early days in the season, but it looks like it will be more of the same from us, hope that we can finally find some brains and start to play

I’m willing to give frawley a chance- although mostly anonymous in the games he’s shown some odd good touches and perhaps once he settles into the side he will grow into the team. Although he’s not set games alight he’s done little wrong. I’m not prepared to wait all season though!
Uate has been a massive massive disappointment, agree he doesn’t seem to give a damn, and his errors are shocking for someone with his pedigree-not much between the ears and lack of effort. If we are willing to forgive that kind of performance at least get it from a rookie and save some cash. He’s been truly awful. Other sides must be laughing at this signing.
There are some positives to take -all from our young players.

im willing to give frawley and uate more time but patience is wearing thin!!

huge game next week against hull fc

if they lose sunday we both will have zero from 3 games

both team havent won for an age going back to last season,

radford maybe will get the chop.... how long will wooldford get.... stone got some stick but right now woolford has done no better