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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:34 am 
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The try CAS scored just before half time was appalling
Tells you just about all you need to know about the teams mental state right now
Watch it again from tackle 1 to the try
It’s a shocker






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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:43 am 
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Here we go

“We’ll get better when we have a full side on the field. Some boys are still getting back to full fitness.”

Dreaming of a full strength side is a non starter. Look who was in the stands for Cas and they still scored 5 tries.

We need a ' Next man up attitude '






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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:16 am 
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The stats from our front rowers:

Taylor: 13 carries, 127 metres
Matongo: 5 carries, 32 metres
Paea: 4 carries, 38 metres
Thompson 5 carries, 19 metres
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Watts: 14 carries, 140 metres

Great effort from Taylor. Beyond pathetic from the other 3. Surely its worth giving Nzoungou or even Brown a go if that's the sort of performances you are getting. At least Paea made decent yards per carry, but 4 carries from one of your senior props? Is that Radford getting his interchanges wrong or is he incapable of the minutes or not pulling his weight? Not really sure. Matongo even worse given how long he was on field. As for Thompson, the less said the better really. I would genuinely back myself to make 20 metres from 5 carries even against a really aggressive defence. That is outrageously bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:36 am 
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First of all, I thought it was a good game, was impressed with Cas and the speed they played the game, I thought they were two quick for us and we were kept in the game by individuals mainly Shaul and Connor.

As I said last week we are we are at, I still think we will finish 6th-8th. We aren't far off and with a bit of luck and more brains we would have 4 points, the try before half-time killed us, silly penalty (again) and too easy metres( like they did most of the game.)

Big positives for me was the Connor, Westy and Shaul. Thought Litten did well again.

Two negatives for me are the forwards, just not good enough except Taylor, Cas forwards main so much more ground and offloaded at will.

Last tackle plays, Sneyd needs to step up here, he has given a lesson on how to force a repeat set my make shift halfs and a hooker.

Two top class forwards needed to make us compete again.

Connor needs to play in a pivotal position.

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:58 am 
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Minichiello gets dominated in every tackle, he just offers nothing anymore, same with Paea & Manu.
Hopefully Hadley is back soon.






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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:35 am 
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Biggest frustration is how we wasted tackles trying to catch the offside marker, when it was clear Kendall was letting them get away with it. We don’t play the ref at all and it costs us.






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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:47 am 
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The Eclipse wrote:Minichiello gets dominated in every tackle, he just offers nothing anymore, same with Paea & Manu.
Hopefully Hadley is back soon.


Yeah Hadley is a 2nd rower not a loose man, Westerman showed how a loose forward plays tonight, get Dean, Lane and another big name 2nd rower in for next season and two good props to help Taylor, Masi and Bowden out. Let Green AND Paea leave and Manu, Mini and Washy will retire.






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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:07 am 
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I thought we were better than last week but some poor individual efforts let us down. connor is the best player at the club by some distance and with hindsight we should have let kelly go and used his salary to sign a quality prop and play connor at 6. He'll make mistakes whilst he's learning the role but he is a very skilled player.

Forwards are abysmal. Only westerman and taylor good enough for a challenging club. The rest need to go

We will lose most games this year due to our weak pack and I don't see many teams who are likely to finish below us. Now it's just a case of whether pearson will stick with radford and trust we'll get our recruitment right for next year but this season is over






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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:13 am 
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At the risk of sounding patronising, I thought you were better than many on here suggest and that elusive win is not a million miles away.

Thought Connor and Shaul were outstanding and did not deserve to be on the losing side.

Better bounce of the ball and a couple of decisions go the other way and its a different result.

Cas did look better in the forwards but your backs shaded it.

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 Post subject: Re: Vs Cas Vegas
PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:05 am 
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Davc1h wrote:At the risk of sounding patronising, I thought you were better than many on here suggest and that elusive win is not a million miles away.

Thought Connor and Shaul were outstanding and did not deserve to be on the losing side.

Better bounce of the ball and a couple of decisions go the other way and its a different result.

Cas did look better in the forwards but your backs shaded it.


The thing is, it's not long ago that we were talking about trebles and could make a realistic claim to being the best team in the league. Yes there were good things about our performance last night and I am sure that a win isn't far away. The way we played last night would probably be too good for half the teams in the division. But to even be talking like that shows just how far we have gone backwards in a very short space of time.

Our pack absolutely ran riot not so long ago, teams just couldn't live with them. Now we have Taylor who is international quality, and Westerman who I rate very highly, and then what?

Green is imo our second best prop, but his injury record is terrible, when he returns can we keep him there for more than 2 games? Bowden is good, but not a world beater, and he has had a very serious injury, will he be the same player? Paea is garbage, he can leave tomorrow for me. Masi doesn't make any yards. Minichiello doesn't offer any threat any more, Manu isn't much better. Thompson tries but is too lightweight, in fairness to him he should go better when the pitches firm up. Washbrook is a handy squad player because of his versatility, but again, he never makes any impact.

Then you have Fash who is a grafter but is again too small and light. Lane who has a lot of potential but is years away from reaching it. Hadley is probably our best second rower and that says it all because he is Mr average. Beinek is yet to prove himself. Brown hasn't played a first grade game yet, and Levy hasn't pulled up any trees at his other clubs.

It's an awful group of players really.

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