Tinkerman23 wrote:I'm saving that one , for someone who deserves more than a couple of sentence response , not for your nonsense. It really his, where you get this stuff from
So in other words you can't come up with a response.
I guess it's easier to say nonsense then come up with a structured arguement.
Bombed Out wrote:On your 1st point regarding lack of energy, is that a players fault for not listening or the coaches fault for not energising or enthusing the team and getting his point across knowing this is a continual failing?
Secondly I also don't think we are terrible but I think we are boring and predictable. Yes Saints was only a friendly but I look at the system we play not the players available and our system has not evolved or changed. That was Saints first hit out also with a squad of 20 and they beat us comfortably. So whilst winning a friendly is not important the wider structure does concern me.
On your last point there is no such doom and gloom merely a concern. I'm not sure how we'll go come the start of the season but I'd like to be entertained and excited win or lose rather than just think I'd rather have watched paint dry for 80 minutes. So yes I would like to play like Saints, Wigan, Cas, Leeds because at least they win LLS and grand finals. A cup win whilst fantastic isn't the be all and end all for a measure of success as even Cats won it last year and they were a terrible team who raised themselves for a cup game.
Radford's style as you call it, well what is it exactly? Without the personnel on the field to execute the biff and bash game we come unstuck. I was a big advocate of Lee when he took the job but I'd like to see us evolve as a team and unfortunately we remain static for now. I'll still be there first home game cheering us on regardless however.
I share and understand your concerns but I guess I am more patient to see things out, comparing us to Saints is a no go from the off considering they have played to that structure for 18 months. We wont match them after a couple of months thats for sure.
Energy is not something that is coached and if players can't get themselves up they need moving on IMO. Which is easier said then done.
I feel we are making out that we are worse then we are, we just need some wins on the board get some confidence back into the squad. Still think we are short of winning the league but we should make the play offs.
pmarrow wrote:I share and understand your concerns but I guess I am more patient to see things out, comparing us to Saints is a no go from the off considering they have played to that structure for 18 months. We wont match them after a couple of months thats for sure.
Energy is not something that is coached and if players can't get themselves up they need moving on IMO. Which is easier said then done.
I feel we are making out that we are worse then we are, we just need some wins on the board get some confidence back into the squad. Still think we are short of winning the league but we should make the play offs.
I'm not comparing us to Saints but why can't we be as good as.Yes they've played that structure for 18 months when a new coach came in and implemented that style. Five years down the line we are no nearer that style of play. They dispensed with Cunningham a legend at their club because they were not achieving the results and playing the right way, sentimentality didn't come into it, so we have no excuses.
Also Woolford at Hudds came in and rejuvenated a club near the bottom of the league and transformed their season so again proving not a player issue but rather a coaching and motivational issue.
pmarrow wrote:So in other words you can't come up with a response.
I guess it's easier to say nonsense then come up with a structured arguement.
A structured argument to you saying , people on here think radford sends the team to go out and play poorly on purpose! Seriously not one person thinks that , you talk nonsense, can't have a debate with a Less of the name calling please. Karen, sorry
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Bombed Out wrote:I'm not comparing us to Saints but why can't we be as good as.Yes they've played that structure for 18 months when a new coach came in and implemented that style. Five years down the line we are no nearer that style of play. They dispensed with Cunningham a legend at their club because they were not achieving the results and playing the right way, sentimentality didn't come into it, so we have no excuses.
Also Woolford at Hudds came in and rejuvenated a club near the bottom of the league and transformed their season so again proving not a player issue but rather a coaching and motivational issue.
Not convinced about Woolford, he took them from terrible to average, I don't think it was any coincidence that they started get players back when they started to win games. Then they lost there last 5 games. I think they might struggle without Brough, Rankin and Hinchcliff they have a lot of cap tied up on their wingers.
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