FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home The Sin Bin Wealth re-distribution



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 164 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:35 pm 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Jan 29 2006
Posts: 1345
Location: Wakefield
I thought this made rather interesting reading.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01/09 ... e-correct/
I thought this made rather interesting reading.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01/09 ... e-correct/

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:24 pm 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 17146
Location: Olicana - Home of 'Vark Slayer
Commie propaganda.






“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22
"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21

A member of the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:33 pm 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 27 2002
Posts: 18060
Location: On the road
Miro wrote:I thought this made rather interesting reading.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01/09 ... e-correct/


Interesting piece, Tax planning in large corporations goes into the initial structure and into subsequent planning around acquisitions especially in any PE environment.

It makes common sense, raise taxes when times are good lower them when you want to to encourage investment - Maynard-Keynes knew that in the 1930's.

The key to any form of taxation system to work is it has to be seen to be equitable - increasing NI to invest in the health service would be acceptable to most. The problem with the last increase is that Labour simply used 50% of the additional revenue to increase existing salaries significantly. If the government said we are putting up NI 1% and this will be invested in more hospitals/equipment additional clinical staff, better software and operational waste was going be reduced by 5% a year happy days.
Miro wrote:I thought this made rather interesting reading.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01/09 ... e-correct/


Interesting piece, Tax planning in large corporations goes into the initial structure and into subsequent planning around acquisitions especially in any PE environment.

It makes common sense, raise taxes when times are good lower them when you want to to encourage investment - Maynard-Keynes knew that in the 1930's.

The key to any form of taxation system to work is it has to be seen to be equitable - increasing NI to invest in the health service would be acceptable to most. The problem with the last increase is that Labour simply used 50% of the additional revenue to increase existing salaries significantly. If the government said we are putting up NI 1% and this will be invested in more hospitals/equipment additional clinical staff, better software and operational waste was going be reduced by 5% a year happy days.






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:24 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31939
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
The biggest positive impact you could have on the NHS would be to fill all the existing vacancies for frontline patient facing posts and then recruit additional staff for the most under pressure services (this is all of them but some are in a more dire state than others).

The difficulty you have at the moment with filling these vacancies is that they require staff that are trained to a high standard. They’re not only nurses but specialists too like radiographers, OTs, physios etc. Then there’s the medics. There’s a real shortage of trained pharmacists, doctors consultants, psychologists etc. If one leaves it’s a huge challenge to recruit someone else. The kind of people that want these jobs are pretty special. They take years to train. They need to be paid better and as country we need to make training for these roles much easier so they aren’t dissuaded by student loans, ridiculously long hours, physical or verbal abuse. The removal of busaries has had a massive effect on nurse recruitment. If we want a decent NHS then we have to be prepared to pay for it. I’ve worked in it for a while and the past 8 years have seen huge cuts. My trust has cut over £3m from its budget in the past 3 years. This has had a big knock on effect on patients. The experienced staff are retiring and their posts are remaining vacant.

There simply aren’t any more efficiency services left.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:38 pm 
Club Coach
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Apr 24 2011
Posts: 17980
Bullseye wrote:The biggest positive impact you could have on the NHS would be to fill all the existing vacancies for frontline patient facing posts and then recruit additional staff for the most under pressure services (this is all of them but some are in a more dire state than others).

The difficulty you have at the moment with filling these vacancies is that they require staff that are trained to a high standard. They’re not only nurses but specialists too like radiographers, OTs, physios etc. Then there’s the medics. There’s a real shortage of trained pharmacists, doctors consultants, psychologists etc. If one leaves it’s a huge challenge to recruit someone else. The kind of people that want these jobs are pretty special. They take years to train. They need to be paid better and as country we need to make training for these roles much easier so they aren’t dissuaded by student loans, ridiculously long hours, physical or verbal abuse. The removal of busaries has had a massive effect on nurse recruitment. If we want a decent NHS then we have to be prepared to pay for it. I’ve worked in it for a while and the past 8 years have seen huge cuts. My trust has cut over £3m from its budget in the past 3 years. This has had a big knock on effect on patients. The experienced staff are retiring and their posts are remaining vacant.

There simply aren’t any more efficiency services left.



One fairly simple solution, although the training takes time, would be to make every medical degree/ training course free, thereby encouraging a greater take-up from students who "dont really know what they want to do" and then of course, reward the personnel properly once they have qualified. :IDEA:

I konw it will blow the minds of some but, perhaps schools and colleges should be trying to guide youngsters into careesr where there are greater opportunities / vaccancies.
We live in a free world (nearly) and it's great that kids have a choice of what thet want to pursue after leaving but, where there are gaping holes in the workforce, there should be some additional "help" for those willing to train.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:57 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Dec 22 2001
Posts: 31939
Location: The Corridor of Uncertainty
wrencat1873 wrote:One fairly simple solution, although the training takes time, would be to make every medical degree/ training course free, thereby encouraging a greater take-up from students who "dont really know what they want to do" and then of course, reward the personnel properly once they have qualified. :IDEA:

I konw it will blow the minds of some but, perhaps schools and colleges should be trying to guide youngsters into careesr where there are greater opportunities / vaccancies.
We live in a free world (nearly) and it's great that kids have a choice of what thet want to pursue after leaving but, where there are gaping holes in the workforce, there should be some additional "help" for those willing to train.


Until the early 90s they were free – there were 100% maintenance grants for students – not loans, and certainly not tuition fees. I would say the needs are so great that this should be brought back for those qualifications that are needed for the vacancies we need to fill.

With the reduction in applicants we’ve seen over the past couple of years this is a dire situation that needs remedying. It won’t be helped if EU citizens decide to go home too.






"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:43 pm 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Aug 29 2014
Posts: 4091
Bullseye wrote:With the reduction in applicants we’ve seen over the past couple of years this is a dire situation that needs remedying. It won’t be helped if EU citizens decide to go home too.

The NHS has been hit by a double whammy. One is the conservatives not properly funding the NHS, the other is the drop in EU applicants for vacant posts following the Brexit vote.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... h-40248366
Bullseye wrote:With the reduction in applicants we’ve seen over the past couple of years this is a dire situation that needs remedying. It won’t be helped if EU citizens decide to go home too.

The NHS has been hit by a double whammy. One is the conservatives not properly funding the NHS, the other is the drop in EU applicants for vacant posts following the Brexit vote.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... h-40248366

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:08 pm 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 27 2002
Posts: 18060
Location: On the road
Bullseye wrote:The biggest positive impact you could have on the NHS would be to fill all the existing vacancies for frontline patient facing posts and then recruit additional staff for the most under pressure services (this is all of them but some are in a more dire state than others).

The difficulty you have at the moment with filling these vacancies is that they require staff that are trained to a high standard. They’re not only nurses but specialists too like radiographers, OTs, physios etc. Then there’s the medics. There’s a real shortage of trained pharmacists, doctors consultants, psychologists etc. If one leaves it’s a huge challenge to recruit someone else. The kind of people that want these jobs are pretty special. They take years to train. They need to be paid better and as country we need to make training for these roles much easier so they aren’t dissuaded by student loans, ridiculously long hours, physical or verbal abuse. The removal of busaries has had a massive effect on nurse recruitment. If we want a decent NHS then we have to be prepared to pay for it. I’ve worked in it for a while and the past 8 years have seen huge cuts. My trust has cut over £3m from its budget in the past 3 years. This has had a big knock on effect on patients. The experienced staff are retiring and their posts are remaining vacant.

There simply aren’t any more efficiency services left.


Are you seriously suggesting that the NHS is as lean as can be or just your NHS trust?

One of the biggest gains the NHS can get is to stop the abuse of its services by its patients - whether its patients not turning up for appointments or patients turning up at A&E when that is not appropriate.






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:59 pm 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Aug 29 2014
Posts: 4091
Sal Paradise wrote:Are you seriously suggesting that the NHS is as lean as can be or just your NHS trust?

One of the biggest gains the NHS can get is to stop the abuse of its services by its patients - whether its patients not turning up for appointments or patients turning up at A&E when that is not appropriate.

The NHS is the most efficient health system going

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... h-40608253
Sal Paradise wrote:Are you seriously suggesting that the NHS is as lean as can be or just your NHS trust?

One of the biggest gains the NHS can get is to stop the abuse of its services by its patients - whether its patients not turning up for appointments or patients turning up at A&E when that is not appropriate.

The NHS is the most efficient health system going

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... h-40608253

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Wealth re-distribution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:44 pm 
International Chairman
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 27 2002
Posts: 18060
Location: On the road
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:The NHS is the most efficient health system going

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... h-40608253


Does that mean there is no waste in the NHS which could be eliminated which was the question?
Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:The NHS is the most efficient health system going

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... h-40608253


Does that mean there is no waste in the NHS which could be eliminated which was the question?






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 164 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17  Next





It is currently Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:16 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 49 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:16 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
3855
Recent
Offiah on Salary Cap
karetaker
6
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Call for funds
Hudd-Shay
188
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63070
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
3855
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Faithful One
5517
4m
Transfer Talk V5
batleyrhino
461
9m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2570
9m
Super League
phe13
20
10m
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
3
10m
Pre Season - 2025
EtonStreetRi
149
13m
Gary Schofield
Jake the Peg
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
Scarlet Pimp
7
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
karetaker
6
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
3
TODAY
Season pass roll call
Cuddleclub
16
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
1
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Sadfish
1
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
8
TODAY
Gary Schofield
Jake the Peg
9
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
karetaker
12
TODAY
Lennon Bursell
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Brett Ferres
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Reece Dean
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Alex Holdstock
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Thomas Minns
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Josh Guzdek
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jamie Shaul
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
898
England's Women Demolish The W..
739
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1006
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
798
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1084
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1597
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1848
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2112
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1689
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1929
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2397
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1835
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1925
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2103
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2245
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
3855
Recent
Offiah on Salary Cap
karetaker
6
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Call for funds
Hudd-Shay
188
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63070
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
bonaire
3855
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Faithful One
5517
4m
Transfer Talk V5
batleyrhino
461
9m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2570
9m
Super League
phe13
20
10m
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
3
10m
Pre Season - 2025
EtonStreetRi
149
13m
Gary Schofield
Jake the Peg
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
Scarlet Pimp
7
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
karetaker
6
TODAY
removing posts
Dannyboywt1
3
TODAY
Season pass roll call
Cuddleclub
16
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Zig
1
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Sadfish
1
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
8
TODAY
Gary Schofield
Jake the Peg
9
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
karetaker
12
TODAY
Lennon Bursell
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Brett Ferres
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Reece Dean
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Alex Holdstock
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Thomas Minns
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Josh Guzdek
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jamie Shaul
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
898
England's Women Demolish The W..
739
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1006
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
798
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1084
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1597
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1848
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2112
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1689
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1929
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2397
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1835
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1925
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2103
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2245


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.