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Backwoodsman wrote: Germany pays virtually nothing into nato,
Where is your evidence?
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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tigertot wrote:Where is your evidence?
Congratulations you have posted without resorting to insults. Hope springs eternal. In 2014 Nato countries agreed to spend 2 percent of gdp on nato. Despite Germany being one of the richest countries in the world they have failed that target. The USA is the largest contributor. Hence trump with some justification criticising Merkel. Evidence? Look on various web sites all the information tallies. Plus the economist magazine which is quite reliable. The situation may change if the so called European army come to fruition. Highly unlikely ,but you never know. Incidentally in the build up to the referendum the subject of a European army was mentioned by the leave campaign. The remain movement sneered at that topic, false news,scaremongering etc etc. Funny old world isn’t it.
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Backwardsman wrote:Congratulations you have posted without resorting to insults. Hope springs eternal. In 2014 Nato countries agreed to spend 2 percent of gdp on nato. Despite Germany being one of the richest countries in the world they have failed that target. The USA is the largest contributor. Hence trump with some justification criticising Merkel. Evidence? Look on various web sites all the information tallies. Plus the economist magazine which is quite reliable. The situation may change if the so called European army come to fruition. Highly unlikely ,but you never know. Incidentally in the build up to the referendum the subject of a European army was mentioned by the leave campaign. The remain movement sneered at that topic, false news,scaremongering etc etc. Funny old world isn’t it.
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Quote:Germany pays virtually nothing into nato,
It is one of the biggest contributors. You are talking rubbish.
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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Bullseye wrote:For example we'd find it cheaper to fund a GNSS system like Galileo as part of a group of nations than alone.
Are you for real - is that the best you can come up with - desperate.
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tigertot wrote:You said; It is one of the biggest contributors. You are talking rubbish.
How is it that Germany pays in less than the UK yet has a bigger GDP?
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wrencat1873 wrote:It's quite clear that the EU will put its own interests first. Of course they will still trade with the UK and the UK with them. However, we will now become "competitors" and assuming that the current bill makes it through Parliament, how do you fancy our chances negotiating the actual "trade deal", are you starting to feel out numbered or small yet ?
We've already allowed the EU to lead us by the nose through the withdrawal agreement and to suddenly expect that we will get the better of them in the main event is just fantasy.
The reality will start to bite at some point when we finally see that Farage is indeed a self serving **** and his promises of a brighter future were just political rhetoric or FAKE NEWS.
I think the chances of doing a deal are pretty good - we import more from the EU than they do from us so I would suggest it is in their interest to do a deal.
The withdrawal agreement wont get through Parliament so either the EU soften their stance or we leave no deal - I know which I think the EU would rather go for. This will be a shock for Junker, Tusk etc. Its about time we stood up to be counted
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That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.
“At last, a real, Tory budget,” Daily Mail 24/9/22 "It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.
In relation to gdp and the mountain of cash Germany has accumulated. Plus Putin has for many reasons is once again threatening the east European nations so maybe Germany will have to pay it’s fair share. A few months ago Cronus had a withering put down for several people on here. He quite rightly accused them of being more concerned for people not of this nation. No doubt I will be accused of being a little englander, nationalist etc etc. Meanwile In the real world a referendum took place, one side lost and one side one. Funny how people have forgotten that.
That wasn't the point. Backwardsman stated Germany pays virtually nothing.
In relation to gdp and the mountain of cash Germany has accumulated. Plus Putin has for many reasons is once again threatening the east European nations so maybe Germany will have to pay it’s fair share. A few months ago Cronus had a withering put down for several people on here. He quite rightly accused them of being more concerned for people not of this nation. No doubt I will be accused of being a little englander, nationalist etc etc. Meanwile In the real world a referendum took place, one side lost and one side one. Funny how people have forgotten that.
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