Joined: Aug 13 2011 Posts: 7194 Location: east east hull
hull2524 wrote:taylor Bowden green masi beinik are not really old timers, manu and mini hopefully will be spelled more and think we can get another year out of them, Hadley will play more time and westy will come in, hougton does need spelling and think litten can step in, squad players Thompson lane paea etc can fill in, so not really old and stale as you put it, of course injuries play a part, we have 3 class halfbacks, and a decent and big 3/4 plus throw in shaul at FB and yea am optimistic of a good yea, time will tell
Taylor is a class player Bowden won’t have had a pre season so I wouldn’t expect much from him Green is injury prone to say the least Masi and Beinek aren’t experienced enough to lead a pack and you still haven’t replaced your two best forwards in Ellis and Watts
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Mild Rover wrote:Only joined Leeds in late June 2015, so it isn’t bad. Wikipedia (fwiw) credits him with 84 games over those 3 and a half seasons, rather than 67.
I was just going off the figures on the rugby league project website.
Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25922 Location: Back in Hull.
fun time frankie wrote:Taylor is a class player Bowden won’t have had a pre season so I wouldn’t expect much from him Green is injury prone to say the least Masi and Beinek aren’t experienced enough to lead a pack and you still haven’t replaced your two best forwards in Ellis and Watts
Taylor is better than Watts, but agree not replaced them, hopefully Westerman can stay fit as he looked good in his few games and with a full pre season behind him and think he will be like a new signing
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
I think, after a couple of excellent seasons, the way 2018 ended for Hull means that the fear factor for opponents that had maybe built up has dissipated. Whether you can get it back depends on a few things, and two that are prominent among them are...
1. Albert Kelly entering his third season with a club for the first time. Unknown territory - will stability help him, or will it be more in the same direction. Now your pack looks less dominant, your x-factor players will be key. If Kelly and Connor are firing, your pack will be under less pressure. 2. What level is Westerman at now? He hasn’t quite lived up to the initial hype he had at Cas and at 29 he probably never will, but if he’s still at the level he was in his first spell at Hull your back row looks decent in terms of both quality and depth. Last year was an odd one for him though, and while I doubt he’ll be any worse than middling that might be enough to see you lose more forward battles than a top team can afford to.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
"Sneyd and Kelly have played 32 games together over two years in all competitions, with Hull winning 21 and drawing one match. Without them it’s 12 victories from 34 matches."
And some suggest that injuries should have no real impact.
Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?
"Sneyd and Kelly have played 32 games together over two years in all competitions, with Hull winning 21 and drawing one match. Without them it’s 12 victories from 34 matches."
And some suggest that injuries should have no real impact.
I'd have said it was fairly obvious you'd win more games with your first choice halves than not
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
ccs wrote: And some suggest that injuries should have no real impact.
Do they? I mean, some might say that their impact is overstated at times, but that’s different.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
"Sneyd and Kelly have played 32 games together over two years in all competitions, with Hull winning 21 and drawing one match. Without them it’s 12 victories from 34 matches."
And some suggest that injuries should have no real impact.
Obviously injuries do have a major impact. Last season though many fc fans and the media went overboard as though you were the only team to suffer.
If they have only played 32 games together in two years it could easily be a problem again in 2019. It suggests they are both injury prone.
"Sneyd and Kelly have played 32 games together over two years in all competitions, with Hull winning 21 and drawing one match. Without them it’s 12 victories from 34 matches."
And some suggest that injuries should have no real impact.
Some would say it's not bad luck if they only play 50% of this season then, stats say it's inevitable.
Kelly's head injury has to be a worry, one knock to it and it's a number of games out, 2 or more knocks and you've got to look at the longer term.
fun time frankie wrote:Taylor is a class player Bowden won’t have had a pre season so I wouldn’t expect much from him Green is injury prone to say the least Masi and Beinek aren’t experienced enough to lead a pack and you still haven’t replaced your two best forwards in Ellis and Watts
, Your two big signings only played 19 matches between them last year so always a risk, we will be ok
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