Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:28 pm
Mild mannered Janitor
Club Owner
Joined: Feb 09 2004 Posts: 7735 Location: Here there and everywhere
Mild Rover wrote:Our best years under Morgan where underpinned by a good kick chase and a low error count. Last year we took a pragmatic approach to getting out of the Championship. We’ve had our moments from time to time, but I think you’re overstating things a little.
There’s nothing wrong with Radford’s preferred style of play and it has paid handsome dividends over the last couple of years. The difference this year is that you’ve had more injuries and some key players have retired or left. Plus now, maybe as a result of the downturn in results, your players seem dispirited or demotivated - shockingly so on Thursday.
You need the right personnel for it though. Even with a fully fit squad we lack size and aggression
Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:02 pm
bonaire
International Star
Joined: Apr 04 2014 Posts: 7818
Mild Rover wrote:Our best years under Morgan where underpinned by a good kick chase and a low error count. Last year we took a pragmatic approach to getting out of the Championship. We’ve had our moments from time to time, but I think you’re overstating things a little.
There’s nothing wrong with Radford’s preferred style of play and it has paid handsome dividends over the last couple of years. The difference this year is that you’ve had more injuries and some key players have retired or left. Plus now, maybe as a result of the downturn in results, your players seem dispirited or demotivated - shockingly so on Thursday.
But its now outdated as can be seen by the top four teams and even Wakefield and Huddersfield have had good seasons playing expansive RL. I agree you need forward power as Catalan have showed late this season but Hull FC are lightweight now in the forwards and cant dominate teams like when we had Watts,Gaz Ellis and Frank Pritchard. You can imagine the fear in some teams when they saw Gaz Ellis and Pritchard coming off the bench together. Now no team fears playing Hull Fc and that has to change. Undoubtably Lee Radford works his socks off and that seems to be recognised by Adam Pearson but i still dont think he is the coach to take the club forward. We have been a good knockout football club but without the consistency that it takes to be a top team.
Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:55 pm
Jake the Peg
International Chairman
Joined: Mar 22 2007 Posts: 30424
I know we've had our injuries which have disrupted teh mid to latter part of the season but we have barely won an away game in over a year now. Only widnes, hull kr and them again at magic weekend in the last 12 months now I think. That to me is down to mental strength and attitude which is now coming through even more with the hammerings
Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:11 pm
Mild Rover
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12656 Location: Leicestershire.
Mild mannered Janitor wrote:You need the right personnel for it though. Even with a fully fit squad we lack size and aggression
Absolutely, and in the medium-term you need to fix that. Players returning from injury will help and it sounds like you’re going to buy or trade too. Getting some or all of your frontline halfbacks will help too.
The much-hyped group of youngsters who are now about 22, has now mostly drifted away or to the fringes of the squad, and the next batch are still very green. It was notable that Pearson emphasised that the additional players you’ll be bringing in won’t be kids for development, and I wonder if he feels a bit burned by how few of Turgut, HTW, Dean, Lancaster, Logan, Fash, Abdull, Matongo and Osborne have kicked on (so far).
More immediately, your 17 for Cas ‘just’ have to tackle anything that moves, and hope it wins overs the fans again even if it doesn’t necessarily win the match. Knock them off their stride and anything could happen.
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Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:27 pm
Keiththered
International Star
Joined: Sep 07 2013 Posts: 1583
Jake the Peg wrote:So who's left?
I can't see it being:
faraimo shaul taylor houghton
You've said it won't be carlos, manu, washbrook or green so leaves
abdul harris litten masi fash lane and a couple of other youngsters, none of whom will free up any significant salary cap
griffin who will be on a wedge hadley who will be at the lower end of the senior players salaries shaul who was radford's best man so can't see him going anywhere talanoa who should never have been given a contract but I can't see his attitude being in question
Could all be p1ss and wind from pearson and end up with a few fringe players going and no one of any significance being signed
Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:31 pm
The Dentist Wilf
Player Coach
Joined: Dec 07 2005 Posts: 7442
at least some of our players seem to be making a name for themselves
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Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:39 pm
Irregs#16
Player Coach
Joined: Jul 05 2006 Posts: 8608
What annoys me a little is that Radford was patronising the fans a couple of weeks ago in radio and tv interviews by saying that because we had lost 4 on the bounce we wanted the squad ripping apart and new faces. Now, that is what may happen. The fans could see on game day the lack of effort and desire from certain players, we could see that some of the players are maybe just too injury prone now and next year needed some fresh faces.
Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:06 pm
R.B.A
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Joined: Apr 06 2004 Posts: 4040
Wilde 3 wrote:What annoys me a little is that Radford was patronising the fans a couple of weeks ago in radio and tv interviews by saying that because we had lost 4 on the bounce we wanted the squad ripping apart and new faces. Now, that is what may happen. The fans could see on game day the lack of effort and desire from certain players, we could see that some of the players are maybe just too injury prone now and next year needed some fresh faces.
Adam Pearson isn't stupid. He knows that there is no way he can deliver on what he came out with on Friday. It just isn't feasible. He is trying to get a reaction out of his players. I actually think that it will work and you will beat Castleford on Friday night. Then he can come out and say that pride and faith has been restored, thus enabling him to continue with this squad into 2019.
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Post subject: Re: Radfords job safe but who will be shown the door?
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:23 pm
Mrs Barista
International Board Member
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29802 Location: West Yorkshire
R.B.A wrote:Adam Pearson isn't stupid.
Very true. He's delivered more in 7 years as FC owner than we achieved in the previous 20 odd. I think we all understand and enjoy Rovers fans coming on here and making ludicrous predictions that Cas with Gale are easybeats for our crocked and frankly awful team currently; a well-worn attempt to create some sort of negative overlay to an already disappointing situation when we are are beaten, and on tv too - hurrah! The reality is that we'll lose, and it will make not a jot of difference. We'll still be secure in SL and we'll still have the promise of action over the close season.
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